Dark? Sirius

[huntergreen_3]

No: HPFGUIDX 114957


Kathy Wrote:
>>Actually, rather than considering the character of Sirius, I was 
more obsessed with the ambiguity of the story. A prophecy is made 
that says the servant will break free and will return to his master 
before midnight and that the servant has been chained for twelve 
years. Both Pettigrew and Sirius fit the bill.<<

HunterGreen:
Here is what the prophecy (ending snipped - emphasis mine) says:
"THE DARK LORD LIES ALONE AND FRIENDLESS, ABANDONED BY
HIS FOLLOWERS. HIS SERVANT HAS BEEN CHAINED THESE TWELVE YEARS. 
**TONIGHT**, BEFORE MIDNIGHT... THE SERVANT WILL **BREAK FREE** AND 
SET OUT TO REJOIN HIS MASTER."

Sirius 'broke free' about nine months before this. (and if he was 
going to "rejoin" Voldemort, what was the point of wasting nine 
months hunting out Peter?).

Kathy:
>> In GoF Voldemort says his servant is at Hogwarts.
There is Sirius and Crouch. Her good guys turn into bad guys and bad 
guys into good guys.<<

HunterGreen:
>From GoF:
" 'He is at Hogwarts, that faithful servant, and it was through his 
efforts that our young friend arrived here tonight..' "

We are privy to a lot of things that Sirius was up to, granted he 
could be lying and there was plenty of time when he could have been 
up to (and I suppose its possible that he could have made Hedwig wait 
a long time to send his replies, and he could have bought fancy birds 
to further to lie), but what efforts did Sirius make to assure Harry 
arrived there? Barty Jr. is clearly the person he's talking about 
(its hard to imagine another person that would fit nearly as well) he 
takes credit for changing the cup into a portkey (and would have far 
more opportunity to do so than Sirius), he was helping Harry through 
the other tasks and was clearing his way in the maze. And he's also 
the person who put Harry's name in the goblet (unless he's lying, 
which is possible, but Sirius would have had a *hard* time doing it 
himself, considering how much trouble it would be to sneak into 
Hogwarts, and rather risky of him, knowing that the Map is in Harry's 
possesion and he could be looking at it any time). I can't think of 
any of Sirius' actions in GoF that could be construed as helping 
Harry arrive in Voldemort's circle.


Kathy:
>>Sirius breaks Ron's leg pulling him under the whomping willow. <<

HunterGreen:
Well, at that moment, Sirius was holding the front half of Ron, and 
was pulling him into the willow (in other words: he couldn't see 
Ron's leg), we can't know either way whether it was intentional.

Kathy:
>>Sirius often appears to be a completely self-centred individual who 
is incapable of making a wise or self-sacrificing decision. <<

HunterGreen:
Now this statement concerns me. Of all of Sirius' faults, I'd say 
that this is NOT even close to being one of them. In fact in many 
cases its just the opposite: he fails to act in his own best 
interests when he really should. I can't think of a single time when 
he made a self-centered decision (except for perhaps something minor 
like bickering with Snape, which is barely a "decision", more of a 
personal problem). I can think of several times when he made self-
sacrificing decisions. Perhaps they weren't always (or, *ahem* ever) 
wise, but being rash isn't being *evil*.

Kathy:
>>Lupin was also suspicious of him for whatever reason and has been 
said by others, no one seemed surprised that he was found guilty and 
sent to Azkaban. <<

HunterGreen:
We don't really know that. There may have been plenty of people who 
doubted it, or would have if not for the sudden deluge of events 
(Voldemort vanishing, the murder of the Potters and the "death" of 
Peter and all those muggles). VW1 has been said over and over to be a 
frightening time, paranoia seemed to be the natural state of being. 
In the light of damning evidence, how could anyone believe Sirius' 
innocence?
As for Lupin, he may have believed Sirius to be the spy only after he 
was arrested (at least, that's what I always took it to mean). In any 
case, Sirius also didn't trust Lupin, and (as far as we know) there 
was no reason to suspect him.


With the whole ESE!Sirius or Dark Sirius thing, I just don't see the 
point. Someone like Lupin or Fudge or Bagman is more interesting for 
this type of theory because they haven't been killed out of the 
story. If Sirius were proven to be ESE! later, it wouldn't have 
nearly the same dramatic impact it would if he were still alive (the 
revealing of it would be less interesting too). From a story point of 
view it packs a very small punch, whereas a living character can 
actually be caught doing something evil, or be caught in the company 
of Voldemort, which is far more interesting than someone saying "Oh 
by the way, that Sirius was working for Voldemort the whole time, so 
its a good thing he died..."