Pureblood (was Snape and Malfoy related? (was: Snape and Lucius ages)

kmcbears1 karen at dacafe.com
Sat Oct 9 02:37:40 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 115249


> Dharma > > It is not clear to me that Snape is a pureblood 
> Wizard.  From what 
> > I  can gather, we can eliminate the possibility of him being a 
> > > Muggleborn Wizard.  Unless I've missed something, the 
possibility 
> > of  Snape being a half-blood Wizard still exists.  
> > > Beyond the bloodline issue
since at least one of Snape's
> parents 
> > was  pureblood, it suggests the possibility that he is related to 
> > the Malfoys.  It's not a certainty in my mind.  However, if they 
> > were  related, it would not shock me.
> > 
> > Potioncat:
> > From the last set of questions JKR answered, I understood Snape 
to 
> > be Half Blood as well.  So that either one of his parents was 
> Muggle 
> > born or one of his parents  was a Muggle (less likely, I think.)
> 
> Sandy, sticking her nose where it probably doesn't belong...
> JKR was asked if Snape was pureblood at the Edinburgh Book 
Festival, 
> and (as she is so good at) she talked alot without ever giving a 
yes 
> or no answer. Which leads me to believe that his status as 
pureblood 
> or half-blood must have some importance in upcoming story lines, or 
> why wouldn't she give a simple answer?
> Is he a pureblood? We (or Harry anyway) didn't see him on the Black 
> family tree. (Harry didn't see the Potters, either, and you'd think 
> Sirius would have mentioned if *they* were related  -- I guess they 
> could have been blasted off when James married Lily, but still, 
> Sirius would know).
> But my question actually goes to an understanding of 
what "pureblood" 
> means. JKR says on her website that Harry is considered a half-
blood 
> because his grandparents (Lily's parents) were muggles. But with 
> someone like the Malfoys, I'm sure they look much further back than 
> grandparents, as well. In other words, if your (or Snape's or 
> whoever's) great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather 
was 
> a muggle, their blood is still sullied and they count as half-
bloods, 
> right? (If Harry weds another halfblood, or even a pureblood, their 
> kids still aren't purebloods, right?)
>  I know that at some periods/places in U.S., they even had 
> specific words for people with various proportions of black blood 
in 
> them, but even if it was only 1/32, they were still considered to 
be 
> black (or so Mark Twain tells us in Pudd'nhead Wilson), and I think 
> the pureblood maniacs have a similar mindset, they just don't 
bother 
> to do the math to figure out the fraction.

kmc adds:
I want to get a copy of "Nature's Nobility: A Wizarding Genealogy".  
IMO a person claiming to be pure-blood must have ancestors listed in 
the book.  In addition they must prove that there Great-great-
grandparents were pure-blood.  

I also think that pure-blood marriages based on love are few and far 
between because "the choice is very limited" (Sirius in Chapter 6 
OotP).  I believe the Weasley's are the exception and the Malfoy's 
have an arranged marriage.

-kmc







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