Dumbledore's motive?/Dumbridge/McGonagall

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 115608


SSSusan:
>> I don't agree with this view myself.  I think that McGonagall's 
comments to Harry were all about TACTICS and SELF-PRESERVATION (for 
Harry & those loyal to The Order/DD).  
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The comparison to Snape by Frugalarugula is noteworthy.  Standing up 
to Snape in the way Harry stood up to Umbridge likely WOULDN'T have 
done as much damage, I agree.  Snape, for all his nastiness, *is* 
apparently on the same side as Harry.  So while he'd punish Harry, 
the consequences of that punishment would like impact Harry alone.  
Whereas standing up to Umbridge could carry consequences much more 
far-reaching, such as putting DD in the position of having to defend 
Harry, which could get him sacked.  I think MM knows this, and it's 
exactly why she took 5 points from Harry and warned him to cool it --
she's trying to get his attention!<<

  
Finwitch:
> Oh, that way...
> 
> And she only managed with it was to make Harry baffled and lose 
> some of his trust for her.
> 
> Also, if Harry had not defied Umbridge openly, his magic would have
> exploded before the class was over. I wonder what would have 
> happened after THAT. (Did MM ever hear about the Aunt Marge-
> incident?) Which effect MM would prefer? Uncontrolled MAGIC 
> against Umbridge or Verbal, open Defiance for the truth? Harry had 
> no other options.


SSSusan:
With all due respect, did you read the midsection of my post that 
you snipped out?  My point wasn't that Harry wasn't justified in his 
anger with Umbridge.  My point is that I believe MM has in mind what 
Umbridge & Fudge are potentially on about, in terms of running 
Hogwarts and putting a clamp on DD.  I think she senses the danger 
of that and wants Harry to, too.  

When she says "This is not about truth and lies," what makes you so 
sure that Harry didn't get it?  After all, MM went on to ask Harry 
whether he'd listened to Umbridge's speech at the beginning of the 
year, and he did respond that "it meant that...that the Ministry of 
Magic is trying to interfere at Hogwarts."  It seems to me that 
Harry was comprehending her point.

I realize you see it differently, but I don't think it's quite fair 
to say Harry had "no other options."  Harry *has* managed to bite 
his tongue in Snape's class when he's been royally ticked off.  I 
don't see how we can be so sure he would've exploded this time if he 
never did in Snape's lessons.

Siriusly Snapey Susan