Vengeance on Snape?Re: Snape--Abusive?
syroun
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Fri Oct 15 21:47:04 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 115658
>snip>
> Jen wrote:
> > My thought is, does Snape really want his gifts acknowledged by
> > the WW? The only information we have about this is in POA, when
> > Dumbledore interprets that Snape is reeling from the loss of the
> > Order of Merlin...Snape appears to be a loner with low regard
> > for societal approbation. He doesn't seem the type to need
> > outside monetary reward or intangibles...
Syroun adds:
If anything, Snape is a consumate professional. Potions are his
forte and his teaching, whether kind or not, proves that his skills
in this regard, are formidable.
>snip>
> Sigune:
> Yes, I've been wondering about that Order of Merlin too... But I
> think that when it comes to assessing Snape, Dumbledore might be a
> tad more reliable than Harry, so I wouldn't dismiss his comment
> straight away. We don't know for sure what Snape is doing in VW2,
> but in VW1 he was a spy, and NOT a member of the Order of the
> Phoenix.
Syroun adds again:
Do we really know that?
> Sigune continues:
> I agree that Snape appears a loner etc, but I don't think that
> precludes a certain craving for recognition. I also have a problem
> with the assumption that the WW at large knows that Snape was a
> DE. If that is so, certainly a number of his students would know
> so, too ("My dad says Snape's a nasty piece of work, he used to be
> a Death Eater, you know; Papa doesn't want me > to take Potions
> with him, he's sent Dumbledore several owls
> already"), and it wouldn't have been much of a discovery in GoF.
Finally, Syroun writes:
Does canon actually provide any proof that it was common knowledge
that Snape was a DE? In fact, canon shows that Snape himself has to
physically prove to Crouch Sr. that he was a DE by showing Crouch
his dark mark to convince him, albeit unsuccessfuly of LV's return.
It seemed to be quite a shock to Crouch.
So, how could we conclude that a person like Crouch who travels in
many circles, would not know about Snape's DE past, if it really had
been common knowledge?
My thesis on this matter may have been discussed earlier on this
site; if so, I apologize, but...I belive that Snape used his prowess
in potion-making to provide LV with a potion he originally needed
to become immortal or to remain so and in turn, served the dark lord
in a way no one else ever had. Through that act, Snape sought, once
and for all, to prove to the WW how superior his own skills were but
also, erect a permanent place in society for Slytherinology and in
doing so, spread their ideology to an adoring WW public.
After the fact, Snape realized that his actions had enabled LV to
carry out terrible acts and instigate a horrible war that even Snape
may not have envisioned...a war that was waged against purebloods
that stood in the way of LV's plans. That may have been Snape's
breaking point.
Within our view into Harry's world, we find Snape in the difficult
position of siding with DD and even working for him, yet not in the
teaching position that he is most skilled for. His current spying
for the OOTP and his present siding with DD likely originated in his
regrets about his DE past actions. Our view depicts him after that
point that he chose to make such a fundamental change - he now seeks
both atonement and retribution for his past mistakes, with the
qualified trust of DD but less so from JKR.
Snape would have expected to earn voluminous accolades for
his potion work as a DE, whether they enabled LV to be immortal, or
performed other studendous works and perhaps thought, within his own
Slytherinistic views, that he was making historic improvements to
the WW. When he realized that the awful results of his acts would
mask his "means" of actual accomplishment in having made it all
possible, he knew that he could not divulged the fact that he was
responsible for them in public while the reality, as an "end" could,
perhaps never be reversed. It was too late.
Although he is cooperating with the OOTP now, it is likely that his
thirst for power will rear it's ugly head again and perhaps, be his
final undoing.
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