envy vs. jealousy?

[Kathi Russell]

No: HPFGUIDX 115780


Del:
>> I personally don't believe in Jealous!Ron. Ron wasn't jealous in
> GoF,
>> he was hurt, because he felt Harry had betrayed him by not sharing
>> with him how to get past the age line.
>>
>> If you look all over the rest of the books, you'll see that
> jealousy
>> is  most definitely *not* one of Ron's traits. A bit of envy
>> sometimes, but never jealousy.
>
>
> Alla:
> Personally, I do believe in jealous Ron in GoF. Especially because I
> remember JKR specifically saying in one of the chats that she
> portrayed Ron as jealous. Yes, I read Dicentra's wonderful essay and
> think that Betrayed!Ron is very strong and very valid interpretation
> of the text, but I did see Jealous! Ron in GoF very clearly in my
> mind.
>
> If you acknowledge that Ron could be envious sometimes, then envy is
> a feeling that often goes together with jealosy.


Now it's Kathi here:
There is a thin line between envy and jealousy, but I always seem to get 
them mixed up.  On one hand, one of the emotions is basically wanting what 
someone else has, but not necessarily begrudging them for having it - you 
just want it too (whatever "it" may be). On the other hand,however, you want 
what the other has, you don't want them to have it at all, and you think 
they didn't deserve to have it in the first place, but *you* do....

Can anyone clear it up for me? Maybe we are more specific about the 
difference between the two it will help us define the character's better.