Harry's experiences : what's missing ?

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Oct 21 19:29:44 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 116146


Del:
> Building on the recent threads of "this is Harry's story", I'm
> wondering about what new experiences Harry might have to go through.
> According to JKR (paraphrase), if Harry knew what's in store for 
> him, he would run and hide. So I'm wondering what could be so 
> horrible.
> 
> Physical pain ? Well, I don't know for you, but I'm getting tired of
> being told 10 times in each book that "Harry had never felt such
> intense pain before". 

SSSusan:
Hallelujah & amen, Del!!  I know some people find JKR's (over)use of 
adverbs to be annoying.  Well, I find her "searing" scar pain 
and "never felt such intense pain before" lines to get really old.  
There *has* to be a new way to express scar pain!


Del:
> Emotional pain ? Ah, many more possibilities here.
> 
> 1. We already know that Harry is right now in the throes of grieving
> over Sirius. Could there be other deaths that would be at least as
> significant to Harry ?
> - His best friends. Hum, considering that JKR said that Hermione 
> would live, if I'm not mistaken,...

SSSusan:
Really?!?  I haven't heard this!  Can anybody confirm??


Del:
> ...that might not bode well for Ron. But it
> could also be Ginny, Neville or even Luna. Or one of the twins. It
> could be another one of the adults, like Lupin or Tonks, but I don't
> think it would affect Harry as much.
> - His mentor, DD. 
> - His adoptive family. I'd go for one or both of the parents, with a
> favour for Molly, as the mother figure, since Sirius was the real
> father figure.
> - Who else ? Maybe a real love interest ? (Kneasy, if you're 
> reading, skip this paragraph) 


SSSusan:
Love the editorial comment re: a love interest. ;-)  What I might add 
to this category is the death of Snape.  Would Harry feel that as 
emotional pain?  It seems not, *but*....  Or perhaps that would go 
into your next category:

Del: 
> 2. Harry also started discovering the true horror of guilt. Could he
> possibly make another mistake, or take another wrong decision, that
> would end up in another death, undisputably his fault this time ? I
> somehow doubt it. JKR already killed off Cedric in GoF because he
> happened to be with Harry, and Sirius because he went to Harry's 
> help. I don't think she will make anyone else die "just because of 
> Harry". I think he's learned his lesson, and won't go flying into 
> action without thinking again.


SSSusan:
I, too, don't think another will die because Harry goes flying off 
w/o thinking first.  But he could still feel guilt/responsibility if, 
say, a person died protecting him.  That's where I could see Snape 
coming in.  Though, as you said, that kind of fits Sirius already.  
Still, I think Snape's death could fit in here somewhere.  Not that 
I'm trying to kill him off, mind--I'd much prefer they grumble 
alongside one another to the end--but in terms of what could make a 
huge impact on Harry, I don't think this can be dismissed.


Del:
> 3. A really interesting possibility, IMO, is betrayal. 

SSSusan:
Very interesting, but I can't imagine whom it could be.  Not Hermy or 
Ron.  Neville?  Nah.  Dean or Seamus?  We already had that go-round 
w/ Seamus doubting Harry, and he seems to have gotten over it.  I'm 
just not sure who else amongst the kids.  Perhaps one of the adult 
Order members or Hogwarts staff?


Del: 
> 4. Another thing we haven't really seen, is Self-doubting!Harry. 
> We've had glimpses of it in almost every book, but I don't feel 
> we've seen Harry in full-bloom self-doubt, paralysed by his 
> uncertainties about himself. But now that Harry knows to what 
> extent LV was actually controlling him, he might have doubts as to 
> how much he can trust himself. He might then come to understand why 
> many of his schoolmates are not as determined as he is, for example.


SSSusan:
Now THIS is one I could sink my teeth into.  It could be drawn very 
realistically, I think.  And the temptation issue could come into 
play through this, perhaps?

 
Del:
> Now that the truth is revealed, I also expect a lot more loyalty 
> and cooperation, people looking up to him and willing to help him. 

SSSusan:
I concur.

Siriusly Snapey Susan








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