Dumbledore

[jlnbtr]

No: HPFGUIDX 116476


 Christopher Nehren wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 19:19:22 EDT, Juli scribbled these
> curious markings (which I've mostly snipped):
> [snippage]
> > A phrase in the LOTR keeps coming to my mind, right near the end 
> > Gandalf says "my time is over, for I was the enemy of Sauron", I 
> > think that phrase could also be applied to DD, He IS the enemy of 
LV, 
> [more snippage]

Christopher Nehren: 
> ... except for the teensy weensy, itty-bitty, minuscule fact that 
Harry
> (or Neville, depending upon your interpretation) must kill or be 
killed
> by him. I would say that Dumbledore is *an* enemy of Voldemort,
> yes -- but not "the" enemy.

Juli replies:
I think he is THE enemy, as in the biggest. Why else have we always 
heard DD is the only one LV has ever feared? If he was just another 
enemy, like so many he's got, why make such a big deal about him? DD 
takes the war personally, he even created the *only* group that's 
always been fighting. You could argue with me saying that 
Harry/Neville is The enemy, but I don't  agree with that. LV feared 
DD long before any of them were born.

Juli (quoted):
> > I believe DD knows a LOT more than we believe, he seems to know 
> > everything that happens in Hogwarts, even before things happen. I 
> > read somewhere that it could be because frog-cards, and Bill did 
say 
> > that DD didn't care if they fired him as long as they kept him on 
the 
> > frog-cards. How else could he have known when in PS Harry was 
> > spending his evenings at the mirror of Erised, and that Harry 
would 
> > be in that final encounter with LV/Quirell? I have no idea how DD 
> > knows the future, but I'm sure he does know what's about to 
happen.

Christopher Nehren:
> Well, there's always everybody's favourite, the Time-Turner! I don't
> see why everyone dislikes them. Time travel isn't that difficult to
> understand, especially if you imagine time as a pseudo-spatial
> two-dimensional graph, and then graph absolute time on one axis and
> timeline branches on the other ... but I digress. 
<SNIP> 

Juli replies:
Although time travel isn't *that* complicated, it would bring 
terrible consequences, why wouldn't DD just go back and fix things? 
like LV killing Cedric, or Sirius death? I don't believe he can 
manipulate time, I think he *sees* the future, not in a Trelawney 
kind of way, but someway. I recall in PoA, he told H&H exactly what 
to do, and what if (huge IF), he knew right from the start that they 
would need the time-turner to help Sirius? 

Juli