Lupin's mind powers was Re: DD and the rat: Conspiracy theories compared [LONG]

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Oct 27 14:45:38 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 116547


> Carol responds:
<snip>I'm not convinced that we have enough evidence to
 convict Lupin of the crimes that canon currently assigns to 
Pettigrew. And if we call this canon evidence "Faith," and 
consider it a slippery foundation for interpreting the story, surely 
arguments that ignore such ambiguous canon as we have are 
even more prone to topple when Books 6 and 7 come out.<

Pippin:
First let me apologize for the confusion--"Faith" is the T-BAY 
personification of opposition to far-fetched theories and is 
defined here:

http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/faq/hypotheticalley.html#history

She is the proponent of ANTITHESIS (All Nice Theories, I Think;
However, Each Supposition Is Strained)

::irons hands for not giving the link in the first place::

 Carol:
> But I didn't mean to get into an anti-conspiracy theory 
discussion again. I'm only wondering what evidence you have 
that Lupin has talent as a Legilimens.<

Pippin:

All references PoA:

 In chapter 8, Lupin believes that Harry's boggart would have 
been Voldemort,   although Harry himself has forgotten that he 
thought of Voldemort first.

In chapter 10, Harry is unable to ask his question about why 
dementors affect him so strongly, but Lupin answers it,  "as 
though he had read Harry's mind."

In chapter 17, Lupin is shown "staring so intently at Black it 
seemed he was trying to read his mind."  

There are also  hints that Lupin is an Occlumens.

In chapter 14, Lupin's face assumes an "odd, closed" 
expression as he contemplates the map. 

In chapter 19, Snape says, "Don't ask me to fathom the way a 
werewolf's mind works."

Granted none of that is proof, but now that we know some 
characters have mind powers, is it really far-fetched to suppose 
that the text  hints that Lupin is one of them? "Odd, closed" 
seems especially obvious.

Carol:

 But I don't see how Lupin, who urged Harry to take Snape's 
Occlumency lessons seriously, fits into this picture. If he were a 
Legilimens, shouldn't he have worked in tanedm with Snape to 
teach Harry Occlumency rather than having Snape use a 
Legilimency spell for Harry to fight against?
> 


Pippin:

It's mentioned in OOP that Dolores Umbridge "drafted a bit of 
anti-werewolf legislation two years ago that makes it almost 
impossible for him to get a job." So while Dumbledore might 
have wanted Lupin to help teach Harry occlumency, it would have 
been difficult to find a pretext for his being at Hogwarts to do it.


Pippin







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