Lupin visiting Sirius in Azkaban

juli17 at aol.com juli17 at aol.com
Mon Sep 6 00:04:35 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 112147


Hannah wrote:
> There are a number of questions here that I'd like to hear people's 
> thoughts on.  1. Did Snape know Pettigrew was the traitor? 2. If he 
> did, when did he find out? 3. If he knew before the betrayal, why 
> didn't he say anything - or did he? 4. If he didn't know at all, why 
> didn't he when the other DE's did? 5. Vice versa, why didn't 
> Pettigrew know Snape was a spy for the Order?  
> 

Juli's thoughts

1. No. Snape's reactions, both in the Shrieking Shack and later to
Sirius's escape at the end of POA, as well as his reaction to 
Sirius's return at the end of GOF seemed too genuine to me. On
that basis alone, I think Snape adamantly believed Sirius was 
the traitor.  

Skip 2. and 3. as they don't apply when answer to 1. is "no."

4. This is a good question. Isn't there mention, or at least 
implication, somewhere in the books that the DEs didn't
always know each other's identities? I've always gotten 
the feeling that Snape performed a different task for LV
than many of the other DEs (perhaps making potions). 
So he may not have mingled with the rest of the DEs
often. And while Sirius said Peter was hiding in rat form 
because the DEs were angry at him over LV's downfall
at GH, we don't know how many DEs actually knew (or 
needed to know) of Peter's involvement or identity. It
could have been a select few that Peter feared. 

The question is, was Lucius one of those few? We don't 
know, but if we assume Snape didn't know about Peter
(as I do), then perhaps Lucius didn't know. Or he could
have known but kept it to himself. Those DEs who knew
each other, like Lucius and Snape, may have feared 
conversing much about their activities once Voldemort
was gone. There's also the question of just how much
Lucius actually trusts Snape. All loyalty among the 
DEs seems pretty suspect. 

5. Do you mean why doesn't Peter realize it once his
identity is revealed in the Shrieking Shack? Perhaps he
has told Voldemort, and Voldy is waiting for an opportune
time to take out Snape. Or Snape has convinced Voldy
he is a double agent and is pretending to spy for the Order 
while really on Voldemort's side. 

Any way you look at it, it is a little messy. Maybe that
was or wasn't JKR's intention, but we don't have enough
concrete information about how the DEs were organized
or how they performed their "duties" to say for sure who
did and didn't know Peter's identity.

Juli
(who is becoming more and more suspicious Snape has
avoided his head landing on the chopping block because
of a yet to be revealed blood connection to Voldemort.)


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