[HPforGrownups] Re: Lupin visiting Sirius in Azkaban

[Magda Grantwich]

No: HPFGUIDX 112189


--- Cathy Drolet <cldrolet at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> DufffyPoo:
> I don't believe DD knew Sirius was innocent at the time of the
> betrayal/Muggle-murders.  I do believe he came to the knowledge
> before the end of PoA and the questioning though, based on OotP,
> "We entered your third year.  I watched from afar as you struggled
> to repel Dementors, as you *found Sirius, learned what he was* and
> rescued him."  Why would DD let HP get this close to someone he
> believed to be a mass murderer, betrayer of HP's parents, and -
> according to Fudge - someone who escaped Azkaban to kill HP? 
> Everyone else was trying to keep HP away from Sirius Black, but DD
> let him go to him.  Doesn't make sense unless DD found out Sirius
> was innocent between the S-K switch and the Azkaban break-out.

Magda:

I'm confused by this paragraph.  When Dumbledore is talking to Harry
in OOTP, he's summarizing with the benefit of hindsight.  He accepted
Sirius' story when he talked to him in POA after they'd all been
brought up to the castle by Snape.  Not before.

And he didn't let Harry get close to him.  He tried all through POA
to keep Harry (and all the other students) away from Sirius.

And I'm not sure what is meant by "the Azkaban breakout".  Sirius'
escape?  Or the ten DE's in OOTP?



> Duffypoo:
> I also have a problem with DD with the whole Time Turning Sirius
> rescue thing.  Yes, if he hadn't been rescued he would have been
> soul-sucked.  However, Hermione said "Don't you understand? We're
> breaking one of the most important wizarding laws! Nobody's
> supposed to change time, nobody!.....Professor McGonagall told me
> what awful things have happened when wizards have meddled with
> time...."  And what happened here because wizards meddled with
> time?  Sirius and Buckbeak were rescued.  Sirius and HP became
> close enough that LV could use Sirius to bring HP to the ministry
> which caused Sirius to go to the ministry and be killed.  DD set
> the whole thing in motion by messing with time, yet he doesn't
> apologize for that in OotP, only for not telling HP about the
> prophecy, and that LV would use him to get the prophecy, but IMO,
> DD caused the whole mess by messing with time.


Magda:

I'm confused again.  Hermoine's comment about messing with time is a
good general principle when dealing with a time-turner and as a plot
device helps establish the tension in the following scenes.  Just
because everything went right doesn't mean there wasn't the potential
for things to go horribly wrong - includind a confused Harry or
Hermione inadvertantly killing their future selves.

Magda 



		
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