"Slytherin" Hermione

[huntergreen_3]

No: HPFGUIDX 112415

HunterGreen previously:
> I don't think that it would sort someone based on
their *belief*, because how many 11-year-olds believe that strongly
in the purity of blood? <

Susana replied:
>>And if you have a thirst to prove yourself at the age of eleven it
sticks with you the rest of your life? At the age of eleven you
have `inherit' most of your beliefs and some of your
abilities. You may turn out to be a completely different person at
17 and even more different at 30. I don't see that as an argument.<<

HunterGreen:
I guess I just see the hat as being more powerful than you do. How 
else would it know to put Neville in Gryffindor when he, at that 
moment, seemed to be full of low-self-esteem and fear? Yes, he's 
becoming a different person, but he wasn't that person when he was 
sorted, yet he still ended up in the correct house. I think the 
sorting hat can see things like that (not necessarily into the 
future, but see what traits and values a person is growing to have, 
even if they don't recognize it themself). 
Another possible example is Sirius. He may have hated his parents as 
a teenager and rejected their idealogy and ran away, but at some 
point in his life he would have had to turn his back on them, most 
people aren't *born* hating their parents. It may have happened at 
age 5, 10 or some other point pre-Hogwarts, but I think its most 
likely to have happened when he became best friends with James who 
was NOT from a pure-blood enthusiast home. Most children have beliefs 
that echo their parents unless someone teaches them to believe 
otherwise, where would have have got that opportunity before entering 
Hogwarts? The way I see it is that he came to Hogwarts still with the 
pure-blood beliefs, and was sorted into Gryffindor because of his 
personality and his values (as I mentioned in another post, Sirius--
when in trouble--never stops to think of how to save himself). 
Basically, I disagree that the hat just judges who you are *at that 
moment*. 

-As an aside, I don't think a 'thirst to prove yourself', is a 
Slytherin trait, it was just something the hat was commenting on with 
Harry before *Harry* brought up the Slytherin house. 

HunterGreen previously:
>And using any means she sees justifiable is not *any* means?
What she considers justifiable is a rather large amount of things
(things that I doubt Ron or Harry would be comfortable with).
<snip>
I wouldn't say that she draws no line, but then again I have yet
to see her draw one.<

Susana:
"You can't hurt a baby!"?
It's a joke. You have a fair point, of course.

HunterGreen:
I know its a joke BUT...I took that to reference some part of magic 
that won't LET you harm a baby (that is, a person under the age of a 
year). I think that might be why Voldemort didn't find Harry until he 
was more than a year old, but that's probably a subject for a 
different post.

HunterGreen previously:
>But disregarding them [rules]? Hermione is interesting because she
seems determined to follow the rules to the letter unless they get
in her way. Its not breaking rules for the sake of breaking them
(which is essentially what teenagers do, brain chemistry at that age
makes you want to do anything you are told not to do, just because
you are told not to do it). <

Susana:
I never broke rules for the sake of breaking them as a teenager. I
disregarded them quite often, though. Whenever I thought they
wore `stupid' (they got in my way, therefore they were
stupid).

HunterGreen:
Perhaps I should clarify, maybe not breaking rules for the sake of 
breaking rules, but breaking rules for no real strong purpose or 
goal. Hermione doesn't break a rule unless its part of some goal or 
mission she has, not just because she think a rule is stupid (which I 
don't think she *ever* thinks).


Susana:
>>Final note on Seeker!Draco: I agree he's on the team because he
likes to show off but he can only show off if he's good. Just a
thought.<<

HunterGreen:
He can show off by just being in quidditch robes on a broom (one 
that's better than Harry's....for a year anyway) during a quidditch 
game. In CoS, that was basically all he was doing during the game. 
(although I don't think he's *always* like that...he could be a much 
better player when he's not playing against Harry).