Time-turning (was: Snape and DADA)
cubfanbudwoman
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Sep 9 02:14:47 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112446
In 112370 SSSusan <susiequsie23 at s...> wrote:
<snip>
> > And in 112285 PK wrote:
> > >>> The line about it being dangerous to meet oneself, and
> > wizards killing their past and future selves, does seem to
> > confuse the issue -- killing one's future self shouldn't
> > actually present a problem of feasibility in itself, but killing
> > one's past self should be impossible.<<<
> >
> > <big snip>
> >
> > And in 112331 Chancie offered:
> > >>>The only rule I could see that could apply and make [sense]
> > in this situation, is that the TT maybe only lets you go back in
> > time during the current day. Hermione went back in time to her
> > classes everyday, I don't believe there is any reference to her
> > going back a few days in time. This is the only thing I could
> > think of that would make [sense].<<<
> >
> > SSSusan AGAIN:
> > I just don't see why it would have to be the same DAY, as
> > Chancie suggested. It's certainly not at all what PK was
> > describing to us yesterday--where a person can easily TT back to
> > a point *before* s/he was even born.
Hannah:
> Thanks Susan, I found it helpful (and was flattered to be
> quoted in it!). It's an excellent summary of a very interesting
> and complicated discussion :-) Sorry I snipped so much of it!
>
> This post concerns a different aspect of the TT question, which
> was asked in one of the early posts that started off this thread -
> namely, can a person time turn to a date before they were born?
SSSusan:
Well, in my ongoing (and ever-failing) quest to "get" this topic,
that was me who asked about TT'ing back to a point before one was
actually born.
Hannah:
> When H and H use the TT, they turn it to go back, but not to
> return to the 'present' (the point from which they started).
> Instead, they live through the intervening hours between the time
> they left (eg 9pm) and the time they travelled back to (eg 6pm),
> so they have 3 hours 'extra' time. This isn't particularly long,
> so they haven't 'aged' in that short time.
>
> Suppose you go back a long way, 50 years for instance. You go
> back, do what you need to do... then what? Can you use the time
> turner to go forward in time, back to when you started? Or once
> you've gone back, are you then stuck, having to live out the 50
> years until you catch back up with when you left? If this is the
> case, you would have a pretty wretched life, making sure you
> didn't meet yourself or anyone else who knows you.
SSSusan:
I **really** hope PK or someone who believes in the possibility of
TT to a point prior to one's birth...or even just to a point more
than just days previous...will pick this up & run with it, because I
think this question is a great one. If Harry & Hermione lived those
three hours AGAIN in order to "catch back up" with themselves [for
them, that day, they lived 27 hours instead of 24], then what
*would* one do if he travelled back 1 or 10 or 300 years? Do most
people who believe that kind of lengthy "back-travel" believe that
the time-turner *is* a two-directional tool, and that it *can* be
turned forward at will?
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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