Time-turning (was: Snape and DADA)

tylerswaxlion ctcasares at sbcglobal.net
Thu Sep 9 04:02:52 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 112455

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman"
<susiequsie23 at s...> 
> 
> SSSusan:
> I **really** hope PK or someone who believes in the possibility of 
> TT to a point prior to one's birth...or even just to a point more 
> than just days previous...will pick this up & run with it, because I 
> think this question is a great one.  If Harry & Hermione lived those 
> three hours AGAIN in order to "catch back up" with themselves [for 
> them, that day, they lived 27 hours instead of 24], then what 
> *would* one do if he travelled back 1 or 10 or 300 years?  Do most 
> people who believe that kind of lengthy "back-travel" believe that 
> the time-turner *is* a two-directional tool, and that it *can* be 
> turned forward at will?  
> 
> Siriusly Snapey Susan

I don't know if a TT can go both ways, but if you go back 100 years,
and you've got no way to TT yourself to the future, you're gonna die
before you're born.

>From Time-Travelling!Tyler's pov:  Tyler lives 100 years.  Born in
1967, she should die in 2067.  However, she only lives normally until
2004, when a twist of an internet discussion on magical time-travel
sends her back to 1804.  No internet magic at that time, so there's no
hopes of finding a forward time-travelling mechanism.  So TT!T lives
out the rest of her life in the past, still dying at 100, but in 1867
when her Time Travelled body reaches 100, not in 2067 which is when
she SHOULD have turned 100.

To the rest of the non-time-travelling universe, Tyler magically
appears as a 37 y/o in 1804, lives to 100, and dies in 1867.  There's
no Tyler at all for a century until Baby!Tyler is born in 1967, lives
to 37, and then vanishes from the world forever in 2004.

Back to topic!!!  

Harry and Hermione and any time-traveller are older than they're
"real" age b/c they have lived "extra" hours.  Undoubtedly, that's one
of the reasons there are so many restrictions on TT.  It's very hard
on the traveller.  Hermione was living 25+ hour days for a whole
school year.  She's probably a month or two older than she should be.
  (Roughly 280 days in a school year.  1-3 (or more) hours a day,
maybe/maybe not on weekends.  Estimate 480 "extra" hours to make the
maths easy.  That's 20 days.)  

Not enough to really affect her--her non-TT age isn't that different
from the length of her extra hours life, but continued use of the TT
could very well cause that type of problem.

Stop here, or be prepared for possible confusion.  The following
example can be a little confusing due to my being in the same time
more than once.  

Imagine in the above example I only time-travel back to 1964 (to watch
the Beatles on Ed Sullivan!), again supposing no way to travel forward
but to live, I'll exist in 2 places at the same time.  If I try to use
my social security number to get a job in 1974, when the time
travelled version is 47, I'll have trouble b/c the number is assigned
to my birth year, which would make me only 10.  Confusing to employers.

There will be two Tylers in the world until 2004 when the 37 y/o goes
back.  They're the same person, just different ages.  TT!T still lives
100 years, but dies in 2027 instead of 2067.  According to Social
Security, I'll only have lived 60 years, because I wasted 40 years in
the past living back up to the point of departure.

Ugh.  Any questions???

-TL





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