Time-Turner analysis

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Scott" <scraft at d...> wrote:
> I am suprised that no one has come up with this yet, but here it 
> goes.  In PoA, if the person who cast the patronus was Harry then he 
> would of have to survive by other means the first time, because the 
> stag chased the Dementors away.  So the question becomes what would 
> have happened to Harry if the stag did not chase the Dementors away?  
> Would they have given Harry the Kiss or would they have left him 
> alone after they kissed Sirius.  When JKR put this in the book, I 
> don't believe at the time she knew that it was going to be analysed 
> so deeply.  I think that we were supposed to look at it like "Oh that 
> was Harry who cast the Patronus Stag" and then move on with the story.

No, no, forget about "the first time".  This isn't Back To The Future, where the past keeps 
changing.  It has totally different rules, and it stands up pretty well to analysis, generally 
speaking.

There was no "first time" and "second time".  It's just that for a while, Harry was in two 
places at once.  Time travel allows many unexpected things to happen, such as a person 
being able to save their own life, but it doesn't make any less sense than certain areas of 
real physics.

If the stag had not chased the Dementors away, I expect Harry would have had his soul 
sucked out.  Then he would not have been able to do any time travelling, which would 
explain why the stag hadn't turned up.

One thing that does worry me is what would happen if Harry tried to talk to his other self 
or make something else happen that he knew for sure had not happened.  I have decided 
that this would only be a problem if he had free will.  He doesn't have free will, because 
JKR dictates his every move and makes sure he doesn't do anything that would cause a 
paradox.

Eleanor