"Slytherin" Hermione?

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 112541

huntergreen wrote:
> 
> Valky:
> >>2 Voldemort is alive and kicking and mortally dangerous to every
> last inhabitant of the Wizard World. Someones gotta fight him!
> Dumbledores Army is doing the WW a service beyond anything else..<<
> 
> HunterGreen:
> How so? Most of the students are not personal targets of 
Voldemort, and are unlikely to encounter him unless they join the 
Order or become aurors, and in either case they'd be around older 
wizards who can train them. 

Valky Replies (Hi Hunter ;D):
I do see your point. The students are not personal targets, most of 
them anyway. Yet they all have reason to believe that in Voldemorts 
war its not personal. Cedric was lost to Voldemort in a sudden and 
entirely impersonal instant, and the attacks of the Basilisk were 
barely personal. I am sure you will agree that prejudice doesnt 
spare intimacy or get personal before it unleashes it's rage. 
The fact that everyone in WW is aware of is that noone needs LV to 
personally begrudge them if they stumble across his path. And as 
much as we'd like to believe that most accomplished wizardkind 
adults would have themselves equipped for protecting their children 
in a dire emergency the fact is, we know most of them are not 
prepared for LV right now. Most of them believe he is a figment of 
Harry's imagination.

This is all without mentioning Hermione's partially selfish and 
personal motivation to learn from Harry because she has a pair of 
Dentists for parents with no such equipment if they were to find 
themselves by chance in the way of Voldemorts flight. 

I am in not trying to say that Harry's teaching could prepare the 
students for a battle with LV, far from it. We all see how the 
battle between himself and DD plays out in the MOM. What student 
could even begin to claim such glory as Dumbledore displays in this 
battle. 

However, the service is done for the WW by Harry showing students 
how to understand defence in practice and by giving them reasonable 
preparation for mortal danger. Something that they should be 
learning in the DADA classroom certainly it is more dangerous for 
them to capitulate to Umbridge's self interested blindness. 

Furthermore Harry is offering an insight into Lord Voldemort, a now 
mythical creature who has become over the course of fifteen years a 
mystery shrouded in fearful hushing and rumour. What use to the WW 
that Harry's knowledge and experience be shut in the doors of 
Grimmauld Place ne'er to be uttered to a man in purple robes on the 
street. Harry is passing information, giving members of the WW a 
clear advantage in the war against Voldemort.
 
Later when his story is published in the Quibbler and later in the 
Daily Prophet some of this advantage is extended to the greater 
wizard community, but those kids in DA have the first hand account 
better than the newspapers do. Each have gleaned a gem of Harrys 
wisdom that they now carry with them, even Marietta. 
>From little things big things grow. 

I know I am somewhat reasoning this into a speculative fanfic, but 
to some degree I believe that at least it is rational to imagine 
something worthwhile will come of Dumbledores Army. And that the 
teachers who appear to have some inclination to support or protect 
it's interest are aware/faithful that it is a right seed to plant in 
Hogwarts.

Hunter:
I know its always *possible* that one of them will encounter 
Voldemort or a DE, but how likely is it to happen that year? (if the 
DA had waited to be an allowed group, it would have only needed to 
wait a year).

Valky:
They can't necessarily know this. Umbridge is by chance removed from 
Hogwarts at the end of the year, she may never have left, and may 
even be Headmaster into book six had things gone differently. Nor 
can they know that LV isn't going to be walking the streets 
flagrantly declaring mayhem in the coming Holiday season. For that 
matter neither do we.

Hunter:
 The only members of the group who end up using the spells are the 
ones that *willingly* go with Harry/Ron/Hermione *because* they know 
the spells. It almost became a danger more than anything else, 
because it gave them all a false sense of capability against DE's 
(and its a miracle none of them weren't killed in the DoM battle).
>

Valky:
This I agree to entirely. By miracle mostly and a few things Harry 
taught them about battle thrown in, the DA members at the MOM 
survived. DA training did give them a false sense of their 
abilities. But Harry learned this lesson himself in the same 
terrifying way. Hermione Ginny Ron Luna and Neville are now much 
wiser people as well as lucky, though. Well maybe not Ron, he's just 
got a knack of wandering in over his head before he knows he's doing 
it. Runs with his eyes closed that one, LOL.

The DA did not become the danger though. It was their love of Harry 
that propelled them into danger. The DA brought people who were 
already quite fond of Harry close enough for them to be given an 
opportunity to go laying their lives down for him. 
It is those three people Ginny, Luna and Neville who, personally, 
already had an inclination to throw themselves at the gauntlet for 
something they believe in anyway. DA was merely a mechanism that 
brought them closer to Harry and his danger. 

 
> Valky:
> >>3 Hermione was aware that she was dealing with the most sinister,
> vile authoritative figures ever to walk Hogwarts in her few years
> there. DA is too important to be left to chance under Umbridges
> regime. Hermione chooses an effective and powerful protection for
> the group.<<
> 
> HunterGreen:
> But she doesn't even TELL the group this! Marietta signs the form 
> before the group is even against the rules, and at no time was it 
> mentioned that telling Umbridge would enable a jinx across her 
face. 

Valky:
That's a fair enough statement. Still Hermione did tell them 
straight that her intentions were to oppose Umbridge not least of 
all in her denial that LV had returned. In this way Marietta already 
knew that Umbridge could not possibly approve. 


Hunter:
> On top of that, the DA wasn't *so* important that it was worth 
> risking all of them getting expelled (although, IMO, it would have 
> worked MORE against Umbridge if they all had been expelled...can 
you imagine the parental backlash?). It wasn't even that much of a 
fight against Umbridge, not in the way that the fireworks and the 
swamp destabiltized things.

Valky:
I agree in hindsight, but we have a luxury of that now that the 
students simply didn't in the Hogshead that day. The looming threat 
of war was inciting them into swift action, I would be lying if I 
said I wouldn't do the same myself, right or wrong and at any risk 
of expulsion. Its only seems so irrational looking back on the 
events of the year from this side of it. Can you honestly say that 
while you were reading OOtP chapters 15-17 the first time round that 
you *didn't* support Harry blazing his usual trail into the throes, 
fully and unreservedly? I know I certainly wanted him to.