Time-turning (Past, Present, Future)

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No: HPFGUIDX 112650

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kmcbears1" <karen at d...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Inge" <Elvishooked at h...> 
wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, > --- In 
> > HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Inge" <Elvishooked at h...> wrote:
> > 
> > Inge:
> > How can Tom Riddle even say that Voldemort is his past, present 
and 
> > future. 

My take on this very clever (IMO) view:

Voldemort is Diary!Tom's past in several ways;

let us say the time of CoS is 1992 - please don't critique/argue - 
might as well be 19XX)
 
1st Diary!Tom had already come up with 'I am Lord Voldemort', the 
anagram of Tom Marvolo Riddle. Diary Tom is 15/16 and thought this 
up in preceding years, hence past.

2nd in 1992 the events of 1981 are past (LV proper and the 1st 
wizard war)

He is present because NOW is the present, i.e., Diary!Tom is saying 
to Harry I *AM* Lord Voldemort you dense idiot, not what you 
supposed to be your frind the special award winner all-round nice 
lad Tom Riddle

and Future because;

As far as Diary!Tom is concerned it is 50 years earlier and so all 
of it (LV's campaign of terror etc) is in the future.

What is most difficult to deal with is how Diary!Tom knows what 
happened in his future. However, if we recall that it is *actually* 
1992 then LV is future and also past. It is clear that Diary!Tom 
knows things that only LV (of 50 years later) knows so that although 
he was 'preserved in time' ca. 1942, the events of the subsequent 50 
years are not unknown to him (he is, after all, being reincarnated 
in 1992 and has NOT been kept in the dark - when Malfoy puts the 
diary in Ginny's cauldron it is likely that Diary Tom has been 
updated on events since 1942). Mone of this makes LOGICAL/real world 
sense, but JKR's writing a STORY here and can let anything happen 
that she likes. 

In other words, Tom is saying melodramatically that there has never 
been a time when he wasn't LV, now, in the past or in the future. 
this works because Harry had it in mind up to this point that TR was 
good, even a hero. It's a 'see how wrong you can be so-called clever 
Harry Potter' type statement. 

Leastways, that what I fink