Time-turning (Past, Present, Future)
kmcbears1
karen at dacafe.com
Fri Sep 10 16:49:54 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112591
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Inge" <Elvishooked at h...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, > --- In
> HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Inge" <Elvishooked at h...> wrote:
>
> Inge:
> How can Tom Riddle even say that Voldemort is his past, present and
> future. At the time Riddle is only 16 years old and Voldemort is -
at
> that point - not in his past or present - only in his future...
>
> "arrowsmithbt" <arrowsmithbt at b...> replied:
> Ah! Some of us have a theory which would explain that - sort of.
> It's tied into the 'Possession' idea.
> Tom is Tom, but Voldy is Tom plus an evil entity (probably essence
> of Salazar Slytherin) that possessed him when he entered the Chamber
> as a schoolboy.
> Since Salazar's undead spirit has been around forever - well, for
> centuries
> anyway, and since it's more or less immortal (hence Vapor!Mort
after
> Godric's Hollow and the Philosophers Stone episode), Tom's
submission
> to it means that he is now part of something that pre-dates him and
> is also
> his future.
> Kneasy
>
> Inge again:
> Riddle's line in COS is one of my favorites in the books - but it
> still quite doesn't make sense.
> If what you said is in fact what he meant with those words -
wouldn't
> it have been more correct for him to have said: "*Salazar
Slytherin*
> is my past, present and future" ??
> At 16 Voldemort can not be part of Riddle's past and present.
> Slytherin can - but not Voldemort.
Karen:
At the time of CoS, Voldemort is again a vaporMort. IMO Tom was
refering to a re-joining of 16 memoryTom and vaporMort to resurect a
complete Voldemort.
Past (before CoS) - Tom Riddle-Voldemort (one entity)
Present (CoS) - memoryTom / vaporMort (two entities)
Future (after CoS) - memoryTom-vaporMort (one entity)
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