Time-turning (Past, Present, Future)

kmcbears1 karen at dacafe.com
Fri Sep 10 16:49:54 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 112591

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Inge" <Elvishooked at h...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, > --- In 
> HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Inge" <Elvishooked at h...> wrote:
> 
> Inge:
> How can Tom Riddle even say that Voldemort is his past, present and 
> future. At the time Riddle is only 16 years old and Voldemort is - 
at 
> that point - not in his past or present - only in his future...
> 
> "arrowsmithbt" <arrowsmithbt at b...> replied:
> Ah! Some of us have a theory which would explain that - sort of.
> It's tied into the 'Possession' idea.
> Tom is Tom, but Voldy is Tom plus an evil entity (probably essence
> of Salazar Slytherin) that possessed him when he entered the Chamber
> as a schoolboy.
> Since Salazar's undead spirit has been around forever - well, for 
> centuries
> anyway, and since it's more or  less immortal (hence Vapor!Mort 
after
> Godric's Hollow and the Philosophers Stone episode), Tom's 
submission
> to it means that he is now part of something that pre-dates him and 
> is also
> his future.
> Kneasy
> 
> Inge again:
> Riddle's line in COS is one of my favorites in the books - but it 
> still quite doesn't make sense.
> If what you said is in fact what he meant with those words - 
wouldn't 
> it have been more correct for him to have said: "*Salazar 
Slytherin* 
> is my past, present and future" ??
> At 16 Voldemort can not be part of Riddle's past and present. 
> Slytherin can - but not Voldemort.

Karen:
At the time of CoS, Voldemort is again a vaporMort.  IMO Tom was 
refering to a re-joining of 16 memoryTom and vaporMort to resurect a 
complete Voldemort.

Past (before CoS) - Tom Riddle-Voldemort (one entity)
Present (CoS) - memoryTom / vaporMort  (two entities)
Future (after CoS) - memoryTom-vaporMort (one entity)






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