Harry's protection

[snow15145]

No: HPFGUIDX 112723

I apologize for the late reply but this subject led me into quite a 
bit of thought. Kneasy's comment to this thread had me totally sold 
and it still does. There is defiantly something up with this killing 
curse vs. the AK curse. (Up Thread for background details) 

Kneasy commented on my response to his post:

Crouch!Moody says that Harry survived an AK but also says that there's
no counter-curse to it and no blocking it. Emphatically and 
repeatedly.
Seems a bit contradictory to me.
So I take the easy way out - if it's a spell that was countered by an
ancient magic charm then it couldn't by definition have been an AK.
Crouch!Moody was guessing, he didn't *know* what happened.


Snow:
Yes! Exactly. The curse that was used by Voldemort to kill Harry 
could not be the AK curse (but it was a killing curse) because as 
Fake Moody said there is no countercurse to an AK. Along with the 
fact that Tom Riddle quite plainly says, "So. Your mother died to 
save you. Yes, that's a powerful counter-charm." 
Riddle admits that the curse was countered by a charm therefore the 
AK which cannot be countered could not have been the killing curse 
that was attempted by Voldemort on baby Harry. There is also the fact 
that Harry only remembers one flash of green light that accompanies 
the AK curse, which killed Lily. 


[My (latest) epiphany]

Voldemort's plan may have been to go to GH and kill the prophecy 
child but once Voldemort had destroyed Harry's protectors, James and 
Lily, he had an opportunity to observe the child before he killed 
him. It was just Voldemort and baby Harry starring at each other; 
Legilemency. 
Snape said in the Occlumency chapter "It (Legilemency) is the ability 
to extract feelings and memories from another person's mind." (Not 
just looking into someone's mind but to extract from the mind.) When 
Harry used the `protection' spell, Protego, during Occlumency lessons 
with Snape, Snape's memories were the ones that were extracted and 
seen by Harry in Harry's mind. Lily had used a type of protection 
spell which could have acted somewhat the same way as Harry's 
Protego. When Voldemort made the attempt at killing Harry, Voldemort 
may have been looking into Harry's eyes (Lily's eyes) and instead of 
Harry receiving Voldemort's memories he received some of Voldemort's 
powers that could not return to its own body where it belonged 
because the curse he had used already rebounded at the same time, 
which meant there was no body to go back to. 

It well may be that Voldemort cannot truly die until he his whole 
again. Voldemort hasn't been whole since his confrontation with 
little Harry. Voldemort has lost whatever efforts he formerly made at 
assuring himself immortality and now has to start over with his quest 
for it. Voldemort doesn't realize yet that this goal can never be 
fulfilled without the rest of his being which has now become a part 
of Harry. Even if Voldemort were able to successfully retrieve that 
part of him that is in Harry, he could never survive with that part 
of his former self that has been greatly influenced by Harry's power, 
it would kill him! 

Dumbledore told Harry in the very first encounter with Voldemort that 
the effort made in stopping Quirrell nearly killed him. Harry's scar 
hurt to the point of blinding him and his scar still reacts this way 
especially when Voldemort attempted to possess him in the Ministry, 
where the pain became so intense that Harry wished he were dead. It 
sounds like something was being ripped out from inside of Harry to 
the point were he wished he were dead because there could be no 
greater pain. Voldemort himself describes this same type of 
feeling "pain beyond pain" and also being ripped from his body when 
his own being was split. Voldemort felt the pain beyond pain in one 
instance; Harry has had to live with that same unbearable pain ever 
since his first encounter with the remaining portion of what lies 
within him; Voldemort.  

Is it all that amazing that both Harry and Voldemort describe this 
same pain so similarly and yet reacts so very differently? Harry not 
fearing death says, "Just let us die" whereas Voldemort does not beg 
for such an end to his suffering. Voldemort fears death, Harry 
doesn't. It is the one who has no fear, of even a name, that will 
live.

Snow