The Sneak Mark (was "Slytherin" Hermione?)
huntergreen_3
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Mon Sep 13 09:59:11 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112814
Totorivers wrote:
>>Values? Where are the values on going against a group that should
not be illegal, learing lessons that a normal teacher would have
taught them...<<
HunterGreen previously:
>The fact is that it WAS illegal. [snip] In this case, the rule is
>arbitrary and stupid, but that doesn't mean that EVERYONE sees it
>that way.
Theotokos replied:
>>Isn't that also a bit like the "Black List" in Hollywood during the
50's and the Red Scare? People being asked to turn in others as
Communists? How fondly do we look on those who followed the law and
turned in names? I, for one, look more favorably on those who refused
to cooperate with such tactics.<<
HunterGreen:
It depends on how you look at it. The people that turned
in "communists" in out of fear and selfish self-preservation are one
thing, but what about someone who honestly was afraid of the 'domino
effect' that was the crux of the communist paranoia, and honestly
believed (or knew) that someone was a communist and was actively
seeking to recruit others? Would that person be good or bad in
turning the suspected communist in? (without the benefit of
hindsight).
For example, in PS/SS Harry, Ron and Hermione truly believed that
Snape was evil and after the stone. They looked at all the evidence
they had and came to that very strong, and very incorrect conclusion.
What if the stone *had* been stolen, and after the fact it wasn't
obvious that Quirrel was responsible, and they told someone besides
Dumbledore their theory about Snape. Well, some of the evidence
(coupled with Snape's DE history) could add up and could get Snape in
trouble. Fortunately they found out they were wrong without it
getting to that level, but its not an everlasting character flaw that
they came to a wrong conclusion once (nor is is in the case of Sirius
and everyone who believed he was a traitor and a murderer).
If Marietta truly believes that Harry is a liar and is trying to
create instability in the Wizarding World by spreading lies and she
knows about him leading other students (like he is in the DA), then
she would be wrong to not tell about it, or at least confront him
about it (if that's what she really believes).
(btw, I don't agree with Marietta at all, but its hard to call her
immoral or with weak character without knowing the *reasons* behind
her actions).
HunterGreen previously:
>I'm not saying what she did was right, just that it didn't violate
*her* values.<
Theotokos replied:
>>Nor did what Hermione did violate hers.<<
HunterGreen:
And what does that say about her values?
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