ESE!Fudge

[huntergreen_3]

No: HPFGUIDX 113506

Hannah wrote:
> The only thing that doesn't quite work out to my mind is how he
> discredited Crouch Sr. using his son. I think the other DE's
> (doubtless led by Malfoy) actually did this for a different reason.
>
> Crouch Jr. is a fanatical LV supporter - would he have gone along
> with anything that Malfoy, who'd immediately run to the ministry
> pleading the imperio curse, suggested?

Meltowne replied:
>>Crouch Jr. is a fanatic by the time of Goblet of Fire, but was he
always? If he was, he would have been arrogant at the trial, like
the LeStranges. I think he was sacrificed by L Malfay, and he knows
it. He hates his father, but he also hates the Death Eaters who set
him up - those same ones who stood in the way of those who might have
resurected LV. Thus the enemy of his enemies is his friend, and he
becomes a fanatical supporter of that which his father hates the
most - Lord Voldemort.<<

HunterGreen:
We don't even know for sure if Crouch Jr. was a DE at all before he 
was arrested. He might have very well been in the wrong place at the 
wrong time like Sirius suggested (and Sirius was a member of the 
order, so if there was any prior evidence that Crouch Jr. was a DE, 
he would have known). He spent a year in Azkaban -- which nearly 
killed him -- then about a decade or so under the imperious curse and 
hidden under an invisibility cloak 24 hours a day, in that time he 
could have become a little delusional and decided that he was indeed 
a DE. Or he could have started thinking that Voldemort was the only 
one who could save him from that fate (and so grew a fondness for 
Voldemort because his father hated him so much and he hated his 
father). He's definitely got a romanticized (no, not *that* kind of 
romantic) vision of Voldemort when he's caught in GoF. 

The DEs might have tricked him into going with them to the 
Longbottoms, planning to just frame *him* (but the other three got 
caught by accident). Or Lucius Malfoy, knowing what they were up to, 
tricked Barty Jr. on his own and got all four of them arrested 
because he *didn't want* Voldemort found. All speculative, I know, 
but possible. The way he's reacting in the pensieve appears very 
geniuine.