Trelawney, Polyjuice Potion, house elves and Fudge

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 113563

sad1199 wrote: 
> > 
> > My point was that while teaching Harry at school Trelawney says 
that she thinks he is born in mid-winter (under Saturn). But she made
the prophecy about a boy born in the last days of July and then Harry
bounced Voldemort's curse back at him. She, being a person of 
knowledge, should be able to dedeuce that Harry was the boy from the >
prophecy and know that he was born in July. 
> 
A.J. responded: 
>But this assumes that she even knew about the prophecy.  Dumbledore 
> and the eavesdropper heard it-- that's all we know-- and we know
that in POA (Chapter Sixteen-- have just the boxed set paperbacks with
me at the moment) she was surprised when Harry quoted her new
prophecy, and said that he must have been dreaming.  I assume she may
well not have realized about making the first prophecy either.


Carol:
Right. Remember, she doesn't recall making the second prophecy (the
one in PoA about the servant of the Enemy appearing tonight)? As I
understand it, a prophecy is not made BY but THROUGH the Seer--just as
the Oracle at Delphi was "inspired" by Apollo, who spoke through her
(in ambiguous terms).

So Trelawney probably doesn't know that she spoke the first prophecy,
either, and almost certainly doesn't know what it said, unless
Dumbledore for some reason has told her, and I don't think he would do
so. (And the eavesdropper only knows part of it, not the whole thing.)

Carol