Snape and Harry again.
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Sun Sep 26 15:08:11 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 113938
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
>
> Dumbledore says "You were not a pampered little prince, but
as normal a boy as I could have hoped under
circumstances."-OOP, p.837,
> Have you ever read this quote as a support that Dumbledore
was afraid that Harry would grow up a pampered little prince?
>
>
> Because I always read it as Dumbledore regret' that Harry did
NOT grew up a pampered little prince, but at least was as
normal as possible under bad circumstances.<
Wow! I certainly did read that as Dumbledore's relief that Harry,
although "neither as happy nor as well-nourished" as
Dumbledore would have liked, had not become, through
over-pampering, a self-satisfied, over-privileged monster like
Dudley or Draco or young James. We can see from the way that
Mrs. Weasley treated Harry in CoS, not being cross with him for
using the car, and cutting up his bread and buttering it for him,
that it could have happened.
I disagree that Snape has no reason for trying to slap Harry
down. Harry did raise his eyebrows during that first class, he
was in Hogsmeade without permission, etc. Snape goes too far
in our eyes when he segues from righteous anger to venting--in
our eyes children are a protected class and should be shielded
from adult tempers--but the wizarding world doesn't see it that
way. Snape was probably raised to think that what we now call
'verbal abuse' wasn't supposed to hurt you, and if it did, you were
a weakling. Probably he isn't trying to damage Harry or Neville --
he's trying to change them.
I think that what Snape is looking for, besides an outlet for his
anger, is some indication of guilt on Harry's part, and what he
doesn't understand is that Harry's conscience is wired differently
than his.
To judge by the way he treats Harry, Snape's conscience speaks
to him as the fear of punishment. He can't grasp that Harry, like
Dobby, has been punished unjustly so many times that there's
no connection anymore. Harry is only afraid of letting people
down, something that means very little to Snape. So Snape
can say that nothing he says is making any impression on Harry
because none of it changes Harry's behavior at all.
Then there's the additional problem that Snape often expects
Harry to understand what he's done wrong without being told.
Perhaps Snape is unconsciously expecting Harry to be a
legilmens?
Of course Harry doesn't make the connection between his raised
eyebrows and Snape's wrath, nor does he think that Snape
might have misunderstood the pained glance that Harry gave
him the night before. Snape was looking right at Harry when
Harry winced and put his hand to his forehead, so what Snape
saw in his class was Harry making faces at him for the second
time.
Pippin
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