Survival of AK (long)

[catimini15]

No: HPFGUIDX 114258

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt" 
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:

> After a bad day there's nothing so good as a boost to the ego.
> Thank you.

You're welcome !  ;-)

 
> But you're giving me an excuse to re-introduce a subject I've 
posted
> on before (twice!) and received almost no response - that dream.
> 
> It is foreshadowing, it must be. It's intended solely for us, the 
readers.
> What other purpose could it possibly have? - the text states 
explicitly
> that Harry never remembers it!
> 
> There are clues there, jumbled as in any dream - but if they can 
be 
> teased out it might (should!) give us a guide to what has happened
> and what might yet happen. I find Draco melding into Snape 
particularly
> intriguing -  especially because at this point in the story Harry  
has 
> not met Snape, he's only seen him from a distance.
> 
> A tight turban insisting that he must transfer to Slytherin - 
Malfoy -
> Snape - and a green light.
> 
> We now know that behind that turban was Voldy;  is it Voldy that 
> wants Harry in Slytherin or is it a hold-over from the Hat's 
comments?
> Is the green light past or future? Malfoy becomes Snape - how?
> 
> For a conspiricist it's almost all  too much.


What follows is a very patchy piece of work. I tried to put together 
morsels of a puzzle that I am not sure fit together....

What I like in what you are saying, Kneasy, is that at the time of 
the dream, Harry does not know Snape. Why, in his subconscious, does 
he substitute Snape for Voldy (high pitch laugh and green light) ? 
Forshadowing or just one of JKR's mechanism to let us believe that 
Snape is the baddy in the PS/SS adventure ? At this point, either 
one proposition could be right. But the dream echoes what the hat is 
saying during the sorting ceremony. The hat says :« Slytherin will 
help you on the way to greatness.». Which Slytherin ? The House or 
Sally the wizard himself ? But this is not news to you is it ?

Where is Sally Slytherin ?

Where is Tom Riddle ?

I know you are a huge possession theorist and I think your theory is 
an excellent piece of work. The two posts about the turban you are 
referring to are 108286 and 108414. In the latest, you talk about 
how little of Tom Riddle is left inside Voldy. Maybe just enough to 
recognise the boy from the 40's he once was into The Boy Who Lived. 
I guess Dumbledore sees what is left of Tom in Voldy as well 
otherwise he would not have called him Tom in the MoM. According to 
this, your assumtion that it is DD's hope to «split» Tom from Voldy 
makes sense. I like this sort a redemption theory very much. Maybe 
the «in essence divided» comment is about Sally and Voldy after all. 
The two little snakes dancing in DD's silver instrument symbolizes 
them better than Harry who is a true Gryffindor hence the summoning 
of GG's sword in CoS. If Dumbledore is engaged in a good vs evil 
battle, maybe Voldemort is only a lieutnant, a powerful lieutenant 
yes, but just an «aide de camp» to an even more powerful wizard ? 
entity ? – another theory of Kneasy - that has been disturbing the 
Wizarding World for the last 1000 years. A Half-Blood Prince maybe ? 
Has it been that chaotic for the last 1000 years ? I don't know ! 
The only other dark wizard known to us is Grindewald 50 years back.  

But I ask myself : why would have Sally needed to possess Voldy if 
his blood is already flowing in Voldy's veins ? Is Voldy just a 
symbolic descendant ? I doubt it. A lot of importance is given to 
blood in the series...

Sometimes I think that the so called «split» has already occured... 
Here's why... A couple of months ago, I posted a theory about the 
missing ingredient in Voldy's back to life potion at the end of GoF. 
I hate quotting my own posts but here it is (post 104523) : «Voldy 
needed three powerful ingredients : (1) Flesh given by a servant; 
(2) His father's bone and (3) The blood of a foe. What bugs me is 
that his father, Tom Riddle Sr., was not a wizard. The Salazar 
Slytherin's blood that used to flow in Voldemort's old body came 
from his mother and I presume that that body was destroyed in 
Godric's Hollow. Somehow, the «new» Voldemort seems to be walking 
around minus the old Salazar Slytherin component. Maybe that is the 
explanation for the look of triumph in DD's eye.»

Unless Voldy was, in deed, possessed by Slytherin, maybe now Voldy 
is left with what he thinks is his old body and the powers and 
knowledge he gathered through his years as an evil overlord wannabe. 
He was a powerful wizard to start with anyway. But according to the 
potion brewed in the cemetery, he is slightly different from who he 
was before G'sHollow.

Something else to ponder : There has been a lot of importance given 
to father-son relationships in the books. The Potters, the Riddles, 
the Crouches, etc. Isn't it about time that we are told about 
mothers ? I think the next two books will deal with this topic. I 
see something coming on Alice's front as well as Lily's with her 
green eyes... And what about Tom Riddle's mum ? JKR has suggested 
that we should ask ourselves why Voldemort did not die in Godric's 
Hollow. I have pondered this and here is what I suggests : what if 
Voldy received a protection from his mother too ? I hate theories 
without solid canon basis but didn't JKR said that we would learn 
more about Tom Riddle's birth ? Is it farfetched to think that a 
percentage of Voldemort's powers – before Godric's Hollow - came 
solely from his mum ? Harry is, of course, The Boy Who Lived but on 
that fatal night, at Godric's Hollow, Voldemort survived too. Could 
it be that Tom Riddle aka Lord Voldemort is also a boy who lived ?

I appologize for my rambling. It is probably filled with grammar 
mistakes and weird syntax. Sorry about that !

So fire on !

Nadine