Survival of AK (long)

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No: HPFGUIDX 114278

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "catimini15" <nadinesaintamour at h...> =
wrote:
> 
> But I ask myself : why would have Sally needed to possess Voldy if 
> his blood is already flowing in Voldy's veins ? Is Voldy just a 
> symbolic descendant ? I doubt it. A lot of importance is given to 
> blood in the series...
> 
> Sometimes I think that the so called «split» has already occured... 
> Here's why... A couple of months ago, I posted a theory about the 
> missing ingredient in Voldy's back to life potion at the end of GoF. 
> I hate quotting my own posts but here it is (post 104523) : «Voldy 
> needed three powerful ingredients : (1) Flesh given by a servant; 
> (2) His father's bone and (3) The blood of a foe. What bugs me is 
> that his father, Tom Riddle Sr., was not a wizard. The Salazar 
> Slytherin's blood that used to flow in Voldemort's old body came 
> from his mother and I presume that that body was destroyed in 
> Godric's Hollow. Somehow, the «new» Voldemort seems to be walking 
> around minus the old Salazar Slytherin component. Maybe that is the 
> explanation for the look of triumph in DD's eye.»
> 
> Unless Voldy was, in deed, possessed by Slytherin, maybe now Voldy 
> is left with what he thinks is his old body and the powers and 
> knowledge he gathered through his years as an evil overlord wannabe. 
> He was a powerful wizard to start with anyway. But according to the 
> potion brewed in the cemetery, he is slightly different from who he 
> was before G'sHollow.
> 

Kneasy:
I agree that physically he can't be the same person, not unless there's
some trickery involving his old body (we never  did find out what
happened to it, did we?). That being so Salazars blood no longer runs
in Voldy's veins.

Perhaps, and this is where I believe your suggestion would lead us, 
once the blood link is broken, so are the ties between Salazar and Tom 
weakened. Where once there was a blood-bond, a physical juncture
between Sally and Tom, it has now been reduced to two minds thinking
alike - a situation where it might be much easier for DD to drive a 
wedge between them. Would that be enough to make his eyes gleam?

Conversely using Harry's blood may be a way to gain either Harry's 
powers or power over Harry. Many primitive societies believed that
drinking the blood of an enemy or eating parts of his body transferred
his strength to you. Does this account for the sudden susceptibility of
Harry to Voldy mind intrusions as well as allowing physical contact?
Voldemort certainly states that it will make him more powerful than
Harry.  If it's true there  will need to  be a corrective before the terms
of the Prophecy are fulfilled - because right now Harry is not Voldy's
equal.

But I  believe that the Salazar entity needs a physical form to be able
to exercise its power. Until it enters a living mind it has only one
ability - that of possession.

> Nadine:
> Something else to ponder : There has been a lot of importance given 
> to father-son relationships in the books. The Potters, the Riddles, 
> the Crouches, etc. Isn't it about time that we are told about 
> mothers ? I think the next two books will deal with this topic. I 
> see something coming on Alice's front as well as Lily's with her 
> green eyes... And what about Tom Riddle's mum ? JKR has suggested 
> that we should ask ourselves why Voldemort did not die in Godric's 
> Hollow. I have pondered this and here is what I suggests : what if 
> Voldy received a protection from his mother too ? I hate theories 
> without solid canon basis but didn't JKR said that we would learn 
> more about Tom Riddle's birth ? Is it farfetched to think that a 
> percentage of Voldemort's powers – before Godric's Hollow - came 
> solely from his mum ? Harry is, of course, The Boy Who Lived but on 
> that fatal night, at Godric's Hollow, Voldemort survived too. Could 
> it be that Tom Riddle aka Lord Voldemort is also a boy who lived ?
>

Kneasy:
Remembering that we have an author who gives considerable time
and support to single parent family charities, I'd say it was a racing
certainty that we'll learn more about Tom's mum.

But powers inherited from her I'm not so sure about. At school Tom
was clever, but how powerful a wizard was he before he entered the
Chamber? I'd rate him as perhaps equivalent to Hermione; ahead of
his cohorts but not a candidate for taking over the world. 

Well, at GH Voldy was hardly a  boy; at a rough estimate he was 
between 60 and 70. And he himself doesn't consider that he lived,
he merely existed. But too many people have pointed out too many
parallels between the two for casual dismissal to be a comfortable
option.