Snape vs. Sirius ( Prank and Life Debts) LONG

[finwitch]

No: HPFGUIDX 127228



> Alla:
> Another thing - Remus does not say that Sirius told Snape how to get 
> there. He says Sirius THOUGHT it would be amusing to tell Snape how 
> to get to the Shack. Now, obviously Sirius told it to somebody, but 
> I am more and more thinking that that SOMEBODY was not Snape.
> 
> I mean I totally accept the possibility of staged conversation  and 
> Sirius making sure that Snape overhears it, but I also see the 
> possibility that Sirius was running his mouth to Peter or even to 
> Lily about how amusing it will be and  did not see Snape overhearing 
> them.

Finwitch:

Indeed. I think that Sirius discussed that with Remus after the
Pensieve scene - 'Wish it was full moon' - and all that. As Snape was
getting Remus' secret from the exam... Remus talked him out of it, I
believe.

However, I do think Sirius talked about it with someone - (not James,
as he 'heard' it) - and Snape just happened to overhear it. I find
Peter as the most likely person. Not Remus (he was in the shack) and I
doubt Sirius would be talking to Lily if James wasn't there - unless
he was acting as some sort of spokesman.

Alla: 
> Remus also says that James heard that Sirius done and went there. 
> Who told him that? Sirius himself ? Possible. Or may be that other 
> person, who saw Snape going to the Shack and putting two and two 
> together?
> By the way, if it was a full moon , why James and Sirius were not 
> with Remus yet, when Snape came?

Finwitch:

I see it depending upon just whom Sirius was talking to. If he was
talking to Peter - then it was Sirius telling James. (with the Two-Way
Mirror). If that's the case, James was either with Remus (likely) or
having a date with Lily... and in that case, Peter was in the
infirmary. Or quite possibly, serving a detention with Sirius and Snape.

On the Other hand, if Sirius was acting as a spokesman on James'
behalf, telling Lily the whole animagus/werewolf-thing (showing what a
great friend James is, taking all that trouble for Moony) - about his
own disgraceful family and his plans of leaving them and go live with
the Potters (another act of a true friend) - and then, Lily sees Snape
enter the shack behind Lupin later - (James waiting for her for a
romantic Moonlight-walk or something, should Sirius be successful)
now, I bet Lily was impressed for James saving Snape... (but of
course, Snape would think that it was a setup!) Of course, Sirius and
Peter would have been with Remus.

Either way, *James* wasn't there because he wanted to have Moonlight
date with Lily!

Alla:
> Another outlandish speculation , which builds on the speculation 
> that Snape figured out who Remus was prior to going to the Shack.
> 
> Could it be that Snape wanted to try and see if he can win fight 
> with werewolf for some unknown reason? Maybe somebody in his family 
> got bitten and Snape wanted to see whether he is strong enough to 
> win the fight? 

Finwitch:

Or he wanted to commit suicide using Remus as a tool -- because that
would get him what he wanted: James&Sirius&Remus at least expelled,
Remus probably executed.

Finwitch