James and Sirius (was: Snape vs. Sirius (was: Snape's Stubbornness)

[finwitch]

No: HPFGUIDX 127248



> 
> Alla:
> If you are talking about Hogwarts times, then may I submit that we 
> don't know who was more under whose influence.<
> <snip>
>  
> Betsy:
> I'm going to disagree with you here.  In the one scene JKR shows 
> James and Sirius interacting, James was *most definitely* under 
> Sirius' influence.  The attack on Snape occured because Sirius was 
> bored and James was looking for a way to entertain him.  Even 
> *Harry* picks up on that.  And when he confronts Sirius about it 
> later, Sirius does not deny it.
> 
> It can be argued that this is just one interaction, but I submit 
> that when an author has limited time in which to introduce a 
> character she doesn't waste her precious words by having the 
> character act *out* of character.

Finwitch:

Well, I saw it that the hierarchy of Marauders *clearly* put Lupin
third and Peter fourth, James and Sirius leading. While James *does*
agree to go with Sirius' desire to relief of boredom... Well, was it
concenting to a request or submission? James may well have admired
Sirius for being ready to desert his family for the right - and Sirius
looked upon James for guidance.

They may well have alternated dominance - but maybe - after James
saved Snape - there was some sort of quarrel between them and James
won over. Or maybe Sirius submitted out of gratitude after moving in.
 Or with James being the Head Boy. (though I doubt that meant anything).

Anyway, they were close as twin brothers, like Fred and George. Can
anyone say which one has dominance over other twin in twinly matters?
Or was that a constant struggle between them? Anyway, I think that
James was dominant since after the 'trick' - and then Sirius because
he had his own house - and then James because he was married and a
father... 

Interesting thing is that in the SS, Lupin is clearly the leader. Next
book, it's between Harry and Sirius and Lupin's nowhere. Fifth book,
Lupin tells Sirius to sit down. And Sirius does. I'd say that since
the reunion, Lupin has had stable dominance.

Finwitch