LV wasn't fulfilling the Prophesy?

gelite67 gelite67 at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 29 16:44:39 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 128251

---> > >   Cheryl:
> >>   I think the point DD was making is that if he'd done NOTHING, 
if 
> he'd 
> > > not attacked either boy, neither of them would have 
been 'marked', 
> > he'd have 
> > > won and he'd have not spent 15 or so years floating around as 
> > vapormort.
> > > 
>  > Angie:
> > I'm sorry -- perhaps I'm being obtuse, but how would he 
have "won" 
> >if 
> > he had not attacked or marked either boy?  
> 
> Karen: 
> 
> Because in order to fulfil the prophecy to be 'The One', 'The One' 
has 
> to have been born as the seventh month dies and to have been born 
to 
> ones who have thrice defied the Dark Lord *AND* [my emphasis] to 
have 
> been marked by the Dark Lord as his equal.
> 
> If Lord V had not attacked either of the possible candidates and 
> therefor not marked them, they would not be 'The one' and indeed 
there 
> would not be a 'one' so he could have carried on safe in the 
knowlege 
> that there wasn't anyone with the power to defeat him.  Thereforehe 
> would have won without lifting a finger.
> 
><snip> 

Angie:
So, you're saying that whomever "The One" is, he would not have the 
power to vanquish Voldemort unless Voldemort marked him?  A 
conditional prophesy?  I don't read the prophecy that way.  The 
prophecy doesn't say the One will have the power IF Voldemort marks 
him as his equal.  It says "And."  I read that as two separate 
occurrences.  The one who has the power to vanquish approaches and 
the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal. 

Karen:  
>
<snip> 
> I read somewhere that JKR said that the last word in the last book 
> will be 'scar' and I am of the opinion that it will be something 
along 
> the lines of ...and Dumbledore waved his wand said {some funny 
words} 
> and removed the scar.
> 
> Angie:

Interesting.  I didn't know she said that.  Maybe when Harry kills 
Voldemort (No, I can't accept that Harry will die), the scar will 
simply disappear, because the connection between them will no longer 
exist [sort of the way Riddle disappeared when Harry destroyed the 
diary, but not so violently].  :)  

Perhaps the book will end in a rather hum-drum manner with Harry 
going to wash his face and finding to his suprise, that his forehead 
is not longer marked with the scar.  Or maybe with a phrase like, "In 
the years to come, Harry often found himself absently rubbing the 
spot where he bore the infamous scar."  Something like that.  
Obviously, I'm no JKR, but you get the picture.

Yes, I know DD said in SS that Harry will always have the scar, but 
DD is not infallible and it is clear that he does not understand 
everything that's going on.







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