SHIP: Remus/Tonks, and RL experiences

susanmcgee48176 Schlobin at aol.com
Thu Aug 4 07:48:24 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 136378


> 
> 
> D. said:
> 
>  >At least this shut down the idea that Lupin is gay (and being 
poorly 
> double oppressed by
>  >the homophobic world) or Sirius and Lupin as lovers were canon.
> 
> Lissa again:
> 
> Actually, it doesn't.  At least not the second.  I mean, Sirius is 
dead, 
> and it would take a LOT of convincing for me to believe that Remus 
had a 
> thing for Tonks before Sirius's death, especially given the DoM 
scene.  I 
> suspect it's probably NOT canon (which is too bad, since I found it 
a far 
> more compelling romance than Tonks/Remus), but there is absolutely 
nothing 
> in canon to contradict the idea that Remus and Sirius had a 
> more-than-friends relationship.  (Even the will doesn't contradict 
it, 
> given Sirius's obsession with his mistake that orphaned Harry and 
his 
> desire to make amends.)
> 
> Lissa

D, why is it so great that the Tonks/Lupin affair shuts down the idea 
that Sirius and Remus might have been lovers or partners?

JKR is obviously very much down on bigotry. I would stake a lot that 
she is not actively homophobic, but given the lack of same gender 
relationships, I wonder if she sees heterosexual relationships as 
more of the norm. I wonder if she did see all the speculation about 
Remus and Sirius and decided to shut it down herself? There were 
clear hints in the movie (Cuaron talking about Remus as everyone's 
favorite gay uncle..Snape saying you're quarreling like an old 
married couple), and JKR said that she had approved all the hints in 
the movie.
Given JKR's wonderful tolerance and acceptance, though, I think it 
might be was the PUBLISHER (who has banned profanity) who insisted 
that these speculations be put to rest, and that's why suddenly we 
get a Tonks/Remus relationship out of the clear blue.

There is NO warning that Tonks and Lupin might even be friends, let 
alone romantic friends, or potential lovers/partners...

So I suggest that the publishers were worried that a)they might make 
a couple of hundred thousand dollars less and that b) there would be 
a humongous outcry from the religious right....they're already 
foaming at the mouth at the alleged witchcraft, they would have 
apoplexy at the idea of two men loving and caring for one another..

Of course, there's no reason not to speculate that Remus and Sirius 
were lovers/partners, and that now that Remus is grieving he's turned 
to Tonks who truly loves him...Bisexuality does exist.....but that's 
probably not in JKR's or more importantly, her publisher's plan.

Susan McGee







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