In defense of Molly /Merope comments
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 4 21:54:14 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 136461
Phoenixgod:
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My problem with Molly
> stems from three things.
>
> 1. Her treatment of Arthur. It's deplorable in my view and
undercuts
> his authority at every turn. Its amazing he can stand with his
total
> lack of a backbone.
Alla:
I think as SSSusan pointed out to me, JKR actually may have taken
fans criticisms of Molly misgivings to heart. :-) Have you seen much
of Molly bickering with Arthur in HBP?
I mean, I personally even prior to HBP did not held that against
Molly, because I think that where it really mattered to him, Arthur
is perfectly capable of holding his ground.
I also loved that Molly said that she was proud of twins business
talent ( paraphrase).
Phoenixgod:
> 2. Her treatment of Sirius in OOTP. It was absolutely out of bounds
> and unforgivable in my view. To attack a man who had spent twelve
> years under torture for not being there for Harry when he is the
> sole reason Sirius managed to escape the inescapable in my view not
> just rude, but flat out evil. Maybe not Voldemort evil, but evil
> nonetheless. And she did it in his home in which she was a guest.
Alla:
THAT I have to agree with 100% unfortunately, but all characters
have flaws, right? I think Molly's blind gealousy of the fact that
Harry was much more attached to Sirius than to her covered her
judgment on the matter.
Phoenixgod:
> I think that is deeply unfair. I do think that Fathers in HP get so
> far less dignity than mothers it isn't even funny. Why is the
> supposed perfect family got a father who is nothing more than a
> spineless 'yes dear' sort of man? Is the only good husband and
> father one who goes along with his wife all the time and lets her
> browbeat him in public? Why was it so important to tear down
> Harry's father figure by showing him as a bully while leaving his
> mother as a beloved saintlike figure with nothing so much as a
> pimple marring her perfection? I think the worst of all insult
> toward fathers was done in her most recent interview when she said
> that Lily was braver than james. So the single most selfless act
> that a father commits in the entire series (charging an unkillable
> monster to try and give his wife and child a chance to flee) is
> still overshadowed by his wife? Seriously, what kind of crap is
> that?
Alla:
I agree with you in general, but again I have to disagree on Arthur.
When he wants to tell Harry about Sirius in PoA, he does, despite the
fact that Molly does not want him to, when he wants to talk to
Dursleys at the end of OOP, he does and Molly is basically quiet,
deferring to him completely.
Him, not Molly lectures Ginny about trusting the diary.
We hear from him " you are talking to the man, who raised Fred and
George"
I think Arthur has more backbone than you are giving him credit for,
personally. :-)
But in general, I do agree with your rant, I think. :-)
Just my opinion of course.
Alla, who cannot believe that she sort of disagreed with Phoenixgod
on something else other than Harry/Ginny topic. :-)
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