Sectumsempra - have we seen it already?
solskjaer_crazy
has103 at soton.ac.uk
Fri Aug 5 23:04:39 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 136630
First I want to say hello as I haven't been on this site since just
after OOTP came out (to be honest that book really put me off HP and
I just haven't been interested since) but now HBP has got me back and
interested again :D
Second I want to appologise if someone has already bought this up but
I am slowly making my way through the posts since HBP came out and I
have about 1000 left to go... *shame faced* I have done a search on
this and nothing came up so hopefully it's kinda fresh ground :D.
Basically I'm just wondering if we haven't seen Sectumsempra before...
. the cannon is being prepared but I would like to explain that this
is partly in response to a number of posts asking how Harry was able
to cast the spell correctly the first time when he didn't know the
correct "swish and flick" movement as well as the word and partly cos
it's something that I thought of the moment I read that part of the
book and it's bugging me that no one else seems to have mentioned it
(in the posts I've managed to read so far).
Cannon (from UK childrens editions):
OOTP Bottom of Pg 698
"Silencio" cried Hermione and the man's voice was extinguished. He
continuied to mouth through the hole in his mask, but no sound came
out. He was thrust aside by his fellow death eater (...) "Well done
Ha--" But the death eater Hermione had just struck dumb made a sudden
slashing movement with his wand; a streak of what looked like purple
flame passed across Hermione's chest. She gave a tiny "Oh!" as though
of surprise and crumpled on to the floor, where she lay motionless"
Later on in the same book we are told:
Bottom of P746-747
The curse Dolohov had used against her, though less effective than it
would have been had he been able to say the incantation aloud, had
nevertheless caused, in Madam Pomfrey's words, "quite enough damge to
be going on with".
And then the description of the spell when Harry uses it on Malfoy in
HBP:
Very top of Pg489
"SECTUMSEMPRA!" bellowed Harry from the floor, waving his wand wildly.
Blood spurted from Malfoy's face and chest as though he had been
slashed with an invisable sword"
Ok so why am I thinking anything here, a number of things:
Both are slashing/cutting injuries for a start even though one is
chest only and one is face and chest but this can be explained
because Dolohov made a (i.e. ONE) "slashing movement", he slashed
across Hermione's chest. Harry "waved his wand wildly" hence he had
the correct motion (the "swish and flick") and got not only Malfoy's
chest but face as well.
Additionally perhaps Hermione didn't spurt blood everywhere because
the spell was not complete (it had no audiable incantation with it)
and possibly didn't actually cut her open so to speak, I do not
remember any talk of her having an open wound although I could be
wrong about that as I have avoided reading OOTP more than twice (see
opening paragraph)whereas Malfoy got the full force and therefore had
to be treated for more serious injuries much quicker than Hermione
needed treatment(I'm not sure exactly how long their respective
recovery times were).
The purple flame could easily have been obscured by the blood
spurting from Malfoy's chest as it is not said to come from the wand
but to "pass across the chest" and even if it does come from the
wand, JK is known to not always tell us the colour of a spell (Sirius'
death anyone?) and no flame or sparks are mentioned with Harry's cast.
And just to see if it gave me any extra help in seeing if these two
could be the same spell I went and looked up "sectum" in a latin
dictionary and most of the words that came up were of the variety
that mean "to cut" "cutter" "cutting" "to be able to cut" and "cut" so
that kinda, well supports the idea perhaps? ;) (other words that came
up were of the "follower" "to follow" and "way of life" variety)
I'm not saying this is the same spell just wondering if it could be.
And if it is what does it mean? See that would imply that Snape has
indeed given the DEs some advantages in the past (his DA spells that
he wrote in his potions book) either by telling his friends at school
those spells as other posts seem to have speculated or else doing the
same when he was a DE (or both?). I don't know if this helps HRH in
anyway, maybe it does cos they now have the ability to find out some
of the spells they are up against but this was more me asking if
anyone else thinks it might be the same spell than speculating on
what it might mean for book 7 as I'm not sure it means anything at
all... so what do people think and if this has been addressed before
then sorry and can you direct me to the posts?
Holly
Whose really enjoying the posts she's reading, especially as she is
currently clinging to a "desperate hope" that Snape is good (despite
having always been perfectly neutral about him before HBP!!!)
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