Why does there have to be ralationship abuse and rape??

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "huntergreen_3" 
<patientx3 at a...> wrote:
> Rizza wrote:
> >>I also disagree with the "love potion=date-rape drug" theories 
I've
> been reading. I completely understand why a love potion would be
> considered to be the magical version of that drug, only I don't
> understand why it's being associated with 14 year-old kids in a 
book
> series that's never once had a dialogue about sex, or a mention of 
the
> word itself. Not to say that 14 year-olds don't think about sex, 
but
> this is a bit out of line.<<
> 
> HunterGreen:
> Well, for one thing, the love potion was not only used against 
Harry 
> (though it was Ron who ended up afflicted by it), but against Tom 
> Riddle Sr.. What would you call the use of it in that situation? 
> Dumbledore theorized she used it instead of imperious because it 
> seemed "more romantic", the underlying conclusion being that it is 
on 
> the same level as using the imperio spell on someone to get them 
to 
> do what you want. Now if what you want is sex, which is what the 
> potion did lead to in the Riddle situation, what would you call 
that? 
> Its certainly not consensual. 
>

Nowme:

I get that. My point is, when someone uses a rape drug on another 
person, they do intentionally for the sole purpose of sex and 
dominance. That's all there is to it. In the wizarding world, sex 
may be an end result, but that's not the main point of it. They see 
it as a way for someone suffering from unrequited love to gain that 
love, however unsubstantial it may be. 

As far as Merope and Riddle Sr. are concerned, I completely 
understand why it is rape, yet you have to take into account that 
Merope's train of thought was love. She spent her whole life not 
knowing how it felt to be loved, and believed she could achieve it 
from Riddle. Yes, they did end up having sex when he wasn't in is 
right state of mind, but didn't she STOP using the love potion on 
him? She realized it was the wrong way to go about things and 
thought they could have a mutual love without it. We all know how 
that turned out..



> -Rebecca / HunterGreen
> PS. There will always be certain threads that go through here that 
> seem to be taking the text a little too far, if you don't like 
them 
> you can skip the threads; this list is full of adults, so adult 
> themes are built right in.


Thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind... So what if this list 
is full of adults? Rape is a VERY serious and dangerous subject, and 
not one I, like most people don't take likely. It's one thing to 
discuss things that come right out of the text, but associating rape 
with the series makes my skin crawl. I don't think it's necessary.

Rizza