No AKs - just the Ministry room of Love Was (Re: Harry using AK curse?? Yes.

[saraquel_omphale]

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> Holly wote:
> *Who feels she's now pushing her luck with keep stepping on 
people's 
> toes and is going to shut up*

Saraquel:
You go for it Holly, what's a few crushed toes between friends?  And 
anyway I agree with you.  In the world of the book it has been made 
very clear that using any of the unforgivable curses is being 
seduced by the dark arts.  Harry now has natural rage and vengeance 
coursing through him and all he wants to do is inflict pain on those 
who have inflicted pain on him.  But this is the easy option, not 
the right option – to quote DD's homily.  Is Harry ever going to 
have the skill and the opportunity to AK Voldemort or Snape – er No 
I don't think so.  If Harry thinks he can beat Voldemort or Snape at 
their own game then – end game as far as I'm concerned. JMO of 
course.

Harry is not a particularly impressive wizard.  He has his 
specialities but otherwise he's fairly ordinary, and I think JKR 
deliberately made him that way.  Dumbledore is a master wizard, and 
in his opinion, Love is the thing.  Dumbledore has always thought 
this, Voldemort sneers at him for this in the scene in the pensieve 
where he comes ostensibly to try and get the DADA job. Harry 
dismisses it almost, when Dumbledore reveals to him that it is his 
weapon.  It seems that members of the list may well agree, that love 
is not enough.  But I'm with DD on this one, and I suspect that 
we're sailing in JKR's boat too. ** Love is all you need.**

So what sort of love are we talking about here.  We are talking 
about something that has the power to blow Voldemort and his AK 
curse out of the water at GH.  This is not, lovey, dovey, ooey, 
cooey stuff.  This is the sort of love that strips you down naked 
and forces you to face yourself as you are.  Although I've never 
read these books looking for religious overtones and until recently, 
assumed they were written without religious overtones (not belonging 
to any specific religion myself), I think the love we are talking 
about here is a sort of Last Judgement Love.  A love that crushes 
evil and crushes the evil in you.  Now I don't think that Harry has 
the capability to produce/express that sort of love. But  I do think 
however,  that having a whole/complete soul that fundamentally loves 
will be good enough for him to survive in the presence of that type 
of love.

Let's go back to the Department of Mysteries and a room in the 
basement which is full of the power of Love.  Well it made short 
work of Harry's knife, when he tried to open the door.  Let's say 
that Harry collects together Voldemort's Horcruxes (this is a theory 
in the making, don't expect all lose threads tied up here) including 
Nagini if he can get his hands on her – perhaps he can sweet-talk 
her in parseltongue.  Then they all go for a picnic down to the 
Ministry and Harry sends Voldemort an invitation via his patronus –
 "Harry and the Horcruxes cordially invite you to a firework display 
in the room of Love. Dress code: funerial"  You will note that the 
reason Voldemort couldn't possess Harry at the ministry in OotP was, 
according to DD, because Harry was full of love and Voldemort could 
not stand it.

OK, what happens next?  Well 
. There are a few options but this is 
the one I like at the moment:

Harry somehow lures Voldemort into the Room of Love, not that 
difficult if he has all Voldemorts Horcruxes in his hands as bait. 
The Room of Love is like a gigantic mirror in which one sees 
everything about oneself  illuminated in the light of what is Right –
 with a very big capital R.  At that point there is blinding self-
realisation, which brings about internal agonies which the cruciatus 
curse can only hint at.  (Anyone who has gone through an "Oh my god 
how wrong I was about that one" moment, will be quite well aware of 
just how painful self-realisation can be – which gives you a hint 
that I've been there :-)  ) One sees oneself measured against 
perfection, and motives count.  Hence it will not be an easy ride 
for Harry either.  All this crucio stuff against his enemies will 
come back to haunt him at this point, and he too will have to go 
through the mill and out the other side.  But his pure untarnished 
soul should get him through it. However, for Voldemort and his evil 
Horcrux bits, there will be literally, hell to pay.  Quite whether 
this will kill Volemort or just leave him crumpled and vanquished, 
or what I don't know.  Neither have I tackled the How-does-this-work-
with-the-prophecy angle.  But I'm sure someone will point it out to 
me if it doesn't work!!

But look - Voldemort vanquished and no AKs in sight.  Neither, btw, 
in this scenario does Harry have to do any complicated magic to 
destroy the Horcruxes and risk being killed in the process. I must 
admit that I really like this theory and have had it for at least a 
year now.  Book 6 hasn't invalidated it at all IMO.

Saraquel
Who wasn't going to do another post today
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