The books are not about rape.

templar1112002 templar1112002 at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 7 14:12:21 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 136837

vmonte wrote:

Del, I'm sorry about what happened to you, but you need to step back 
a little. You and I know that Harry is not a sexual predator--at
least I think you don't? The books are not about you, or me, or
anyone else. And it's ok to feel upset because your ship did not come
true. Everyone on this site has come up with theories that have
turned out to be wrong, at least I did, and I think that's ok.

But it also seems to me that JKR is a VERY moral person and that she
is trying to teach children some great lessons in her books. Imagine
a book that teaches children to value family, friendship, and to be
brave in the face of danger; to have tolerance, learn how to forgive,
and expect the best in people. There is no way that JKR would make
Harry a rapist or an abuser.

You're right that Merope should not have used Tom Riddle Sr. in the
way that she did (and she paid for it didn't she?), but to accuse
Harry? Come on?

I understand that you feel like you didn't get enough of Harry-with-
Ginny to make it real for you, but it's another thing to start
inventing scenarios that are just not there.



**Marcela now:

I know that you have been following this thread, Vivian, so it's 
really a bit puzzling that you have missed some of Del's posts, in 
which she has stated more than twice that she had indeed seen H/G 
coming and that she was supportive of that ship, as well as R/Hr's, 
pre-HBP.

Also, Del has repeatedly said that she doesn't believe that Harry 
was an abuser, she was simply countering the argument of "filling in 
the gaps with your own imagination", as it had been suggested 
to "make up" for the lack of info the reader got about H/G's 
relationship, once it was sealed with the kiss.

As a H/Hr shipper, I remember I used to get upset when some R/Hr 
shippers theorized of Harry being the 'violent' type... their canon 
evidence for this belief was the Fight and Flight chapter in OoTP, 
in which Harry "felt" like wanting to "shake" Hermione.  So, even 
though I don't believe that Harry is a violent person, or that he'd 
resort to abuse his girlfriend, I can see where some people get 
their ideas from.  As Del stated in another post, it's not the 
readers whom are bringing violence/abuse/rape to the HP universe, 
it's the author herself whom brought them in.
I give you example of this: Hermione's canary attack.  While it 
looked like a funny scene at first -especially because it happened 
to Ron-, when I read the book a second time this scene hit me like a 
bullet!  On this second time, when I already I knew that Hr/R ship 
was about to sail in next book, that canary scene striked me as too 
violent for my taste.
I wondered:  how can any couple come up to terms or feel good with 
each other after one of them has so purposedly "hurt" the other?  I 
don't know... but despite JKR's other nice messages about 
friendship, love, etc., this scene alone kind of kills it for me. 
What's a 12 year-old girl going to think after reading that scene?  
That hurting a boy you like is okay if he's crossed you, because 
he's going out with another girl and not you?
I could have even accepted a "petrificus totalus" or a "silencio" 
spell on Ron, but a canary attack?  We know that it was not a mild 
thing, it left marks on Ron's face and hands -that had been covering 
his eyes, mind you- for days afterwards...

So who is bringing violence or abuse to HP world?

Marcela







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