The Twins are bad, Harry is bad, but Draco is good and so is Snape...?

[vmonte]

No: HPFGUIDX 136846

vmonte:
"Percy is a jerk! And doesn't he choose, out of his own free will, to
be a jerk? His father is dying in the hospital during OOTP (at least
there was a good possiblity that that might happen) and Percy refuses
to see him because of a stupid fight?"

Del:
Arthur was attacked during the night, and by 5am he was already out of
danger. So unless you can prove that Percy was contacted during the
night and refused to come, your accusation has no basis. By the time
Percy most probably learned of the situation (when he went to work),
Arthur was completely out of danger.

And may I remind you that during the "stupid fight", Arthur totally
and completely crushed Percy's pride by arguing *without any proof*
that the only reason Percy had been promoted was so Fudge could spy on
Arthur? Personally I don't see why Percy should make ANY efforts to
reconcile with such an *unsupportive* family.

vmonte now:
Wow, we are talking about Percy's father here aren't we? Percy is a 
selfish and self-serving jerk. He should have at least showed up at 
the hospital for his mother's sake.


Vmonte:
"He does not realize that it's family that's important, not the
corporate ladder."

Del:
I don't see why Percy should consider his family to be important,
considering how little they've ALWAYS all thought of him, except 
Molly?

vmonte:
Poor Percy, so hurt by his bad and abusive family. Contrast his life 
to Harry's.


Del replies:
Just because Percy is not helping the Order (does he even know about
them?), doesn't mean he's not helping in the war efforts.

vmonte:
If he is helping as undercover spy or something like that then I will 
be very proud of him indeed.  :)



Vmonte wrote:
"In fact, I love the entire Weasley clan. They are a warm and loving
family."

Del replies:
You love them all, except Percy, right?
And they are warm and loving, except to Percy...

vmonte:
I'm disappointed in Percy, but would forgive him if he were to make 
the right choice in the next book. I would give him another chance.
I think that his family loves him as well.



Vmonte wrote:
"You don't see a difference between Harry's behavior and Draco's? This
train scene said more to me about Draco than any other scene in any
other HP book. Draco stuns Harry (Harry is immobilized) and then Draco
smashes his foot into Harry's face breaking his nose. Draco then takes
Harry's cloak and covers him up, and walks away. Pretty cowardly don't
you think? He attacks a man when he is already down?"

Del replies:
What about the Twins deliberately walking on the unsconscious Malfoy,
Crabbe and Goyle?

What about James and Sirius attacking Snape when he's already down?

vmonte:
I'm talking about Harry and Draco here. Mark my words, Snape and 
Draco are going to turn out to be the slime of the earth. 

I can also imagine a scenario in book 7 where Harry is going to have 
to save Draco's life. And of course Harry will save him and Draco 
will not appreciate it--not canon--JMO.


Vmonte wrote:
"Still, there is a difference between Harry's horror at what he has
done (probably the same horror that motivated James into saving Snape)
and Draco's reaction to what he himself has done, no?"

Del replies:
Draco broke Harry's nose. Harry cut Draco's face and chest open. Not
exactly on the same plane, I'd say.

vmonte:
Exactly! What Harry did was done out of stupidity, what Draco did was 
done on out of malice. 

Still trying to make Harry the bad guy aren't you. How sad.

Vivian