The Twins are bad, Harry is bad, but Draco is good and so is Snape...?
huntergreen_3
patientx3 at aol.com
Sun Aug 7 20:50:55 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 136869
Del wrote:
> Just because Percy is not helping the Order (does he even know about
> them?), doesn't mean he's not helping in the war efforts.
Nora replied:
I don't have too much hope on that front, given the state of the
Ministry as presented in HBP. Different leader, still fairly
ineffective.
HunterGreen:
Doesn't mean he's not helping in his own way. We don't know if anyone
has asked him to join the order, and if they had, I'd bet he'd be
very uncomfortable with it, and there's not a lot he could do, he's
not exactly a fighter. But the Ministry is no longer trying to
subvert the fight against Voldemort, even if their methods are
somewhat odd.
Del:
> What about the Twins deliberately walking on the unsconscious
> Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle?
Nora:
>>After those three instigated the situation, one is more tempted to
read it as JKR writing comeuppance.<<
HunterGreen:
And that's exactly what Draco was after. Harry was hiding in his
cabin, *spying* on him, remember. And Draco is not a nice person, his
reaction was not that surprising (to me at least). About an hour
later Harry was fine (sure Draco intended him to end up in London,
but he didn't). Its not exactly innocent, but seeing how he could
have *murdered* Harry if he wanted to, Harry got off easy.
Del:
> What about James and Sirius attacking Snape when he's already down?
>
> As usual, it's awful when Draco does it, but the good guys always
> have a good excuse, huh? And the fact that Harry was *spying* on
> Draco is not a good excuse, I suppose?
Nora:
>>Del, if you want to argue that spying or skulking around is a good
enough reason to get someone beat up, then your argument can actually
be used to endorse the ways that the Marauders treated Snape. Black
tells us that Snape was always skulking around, trying to find out
what they were doing (just as Harry was with Draco?): does that make
their actions justified? By your argument, it does.<<
HunterGreen:
Not exactly. Harry was caught *in the act*. If Sirius and James found
Snape hiding behind a tree (for example) to spy on them, then I would
have a lot less sympathy for Snape than I did in the pensieve scene.
Though I'm sure there were many times that Snape did deserve whatever
curses they threw at him (and that he threw some back), we have at
least once example of them attacking without provacation and going
two-on-one, no less. They don't break his nose, but humiliating him
in front of a group of people probably caused more lasting damage (at
least Draco waited until the other Slytherins were gone).
-Rebecca / HunterGreen
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