Ship: R/Hr and violence (Re: The books are not about rape.)

casmir2012 casmir2012 at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 8 19:41:09 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 136963

> Marcela wrote:
> I give you example of this: Hermione's canary attack.  While it 
> looked like a funny scene at first -especially because it 
> happened to Ron-, when I read the book a second time this scene hit 
> me like a bullet
<SNIP>
> 
> Susan wrote:
> I don't like this scene either, but I don't think it's 
characterisic 
> of Hermione. I disagree with JKR putting this scene in...
> Do I think it makes Hermione an abuser? No. I think it's an 
isolated 
> incident.
> 
>  
> Now Luna:
> I have to agree that the Canary attack scene, although intended to 
be 
> funny, was violent.  Any attack, under any circumstances is 
violent. 
> But his scene is not an example of abusive behaviour.
> 

Casmir:

I didn't find this scene abusive or funny.  I did find it important.  
I agree with Luna that it shows that Hermione is human.  IMO it 
externally shows the pain Hermione is feeling inside. Also, I don't 
see it anymore "violent" then many of the jinxes performed on each 
other throughout the book.  It's also a reminder of Ron's dependance 
on Hermione to save his arse, as I doubt he knew how to get rid of 
the birds himself. I mean really, is it so violent to do that if a 
capable wizard is able to vanish the birds immediately?  oh, 
yeah...Ron depends on Hermione to do that stuff for him.

I do NOT feel the scene was a mistake, either.  I did some pretty 
drastic (not that I think birds pecking and diving was drastic, but 
know some of you do) things as a teenager that I would never think of 
doing now.  WE cannot compare their behavior with that of ADULTS.  
Hermione may come across older than she is, but she is still a 
child.  This is a mistake that happens in real life, too.  Too much 
maturity or knowledge is expected from younger ones simply because 
they handle themselves in a more mature fashion then their 
contemporaries.  

Personally, I would have never been pleased with the reality of 
Hermione's character if I had never seen this human side of her... it is 
something I can definately relate to.  (I can relate to the book 
smart stuff, but not the complete lack of fraility or hurt 
sensibilites, which this scene demonstrates).

Casmir








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