Ship: R/Hr and violence (Re: The books are not about rape.)

lunamk03 imontero at iname.com
Tue Aug 9 16:54:07 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137056

Marcela wrote: 
Nevertheless, while I said that the scene was a bit 
too violent for my taste, I can honestly understand her behaviour and 
I believe I explained that in my previous post.  My problem comes 
with the fact that we're supposed to believe that after this scene 
and some mending of their friendship, Ron and Hermione can move on to 
a closer relationship.  I still don't understand, and nobody that > 
answered my post addressed this, how can those two be  an equal 
footing/level in their r'ship after this incident.  Is it possible 
for a couple to have been physical violent/aggressive towards each 
other, to then cozy up and make up *and not* fall into aggression 
> again?
<snip>


Luna:
Yes, I think a friendship can continue and strengthen even after 
an incident like this; it all depends on circumstances and follow up. 
As you said, Hermione wasn't sorry at first, but further behavior 
shows that she was sorry, especially after Ron was poisoned. 

We have no reason to believe this behavior will become a pattern. We 
have never before seen Ron jinxing or physically aggressing Hermione 
and we have never seen Hermione doing so to him, until the canary 
scene
 We see a behavior of someone who must have been regretting 
doing this and not talking to Ron while he was at the hospital. Later 
she corrects her behavior by being patient to him (scene where Ron 
was making snow). So even if we don't see her apologizing to Ron, her 
behavior (as well as Ron's) shows that she was sorry and that she's 
taking steps towards a more harmonious relationship with him.  Ron 
and Hermione are equals in the sense that they cannot control each 
other and the only way out is to be partners, in a way, Ron doesn't 
take s
d from Hermione and Hermione doesn't take s
d from Ron; Ron 
was  being outrageously rude to her, and she answered by being 
equally rude to him. If they want to work their relationship out, 
they have to work as a team, as equals. This is what they've learn 
from this experience. 

Following Jo's books and interviews, she seems to give more value 
to "equalness" in a relationship. She considers Ron and Hermione, and 
Ginny and Harry equals in terms of character, personality and 
relationship dynamics. I agree with her, but I am aware that not 
everyone sees the same.
    
If you try to find Hermione a match in terms of magic knowledge, 
well, I think the only match we have left is already dead, killed by 
Snape. Or maybe Snape himself could be better match, hmmm, can you 
imagine a fanfiction S/Hr? That should be fun to read :-). Greasy 
kisses here and there, then jinxes all around, rocky ship!
 Or maybe 
DD portrait/Hr. Um, I guess I am getting far away from this post main 
point


OK, going back to the answer you wanted: maybe, correct me if I am 
wrong, your tolerance for this kind of behavior is very low and this 
would be reason enough to end a relationship/friendship with someone 
you deeply care about, even if this person is showing a change of 
attitude for the better and this particular behavior is not a 
pattern.  Then again, I guess you wouldn't have a R/Hr relationship 
type anyway



Luna.







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