for whom are the books named?, Re: Possible message in Evil!Snape
ladyljd
ladyljd at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 9 17:54:07 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 137058
Del wrote:
> > But DD is the wise mentor of the hero, and usually the mentor is
> > right, *especially* when everything seems to point to the fact
> > that he is wrong. That's one of the major points of the mentor:
> > to teach the hero to look beyond appearances. And Harry so far
> > has almost NEVER looked beyond the appearance of Snape.
anthyroserain:
> To add to what Del is saying: Harry may be the hero and have his
> name in the title, but a smart coming-of-age story doesn't suggest
> that the hero never learned anything through all the books.
> Dumbledore is fallible and sometimes wrong, but this was the
> greatest lesson he ever taught, one that Harry would be foolish to
> reject, and one I think (or hope) JKR will back up in the end.
Sorry I've been so long in responding to this. RL issues have
imposed themselves on my HBP speculation time!!
Anyway, you know that I certainly agree with your arguments. The
fallacy of relying on appearances and prejudices is what I hoped we
were seeing develop in the character interpretations of both Lupin
and Snape. And perhaps this is so with Lupin but I am ever more
convinced of JKR's ill intentions where Snape is concerned. I won't
waste your time on all of my theories on what Book 7 will contain.
What I will say is that I'm beginning to doubt that Snape will be
involved in the redemption JKR is clearly planning for the next
installment.
We are treated to a rather sympathetic back-story of Tom Riddle in
HBP. Could this mean he is capable of some form of redemption? If
there is more Snape back-story, you can be certain it will NOT be
sympathetic. After all, JKR has said that Snape's knowledge of love
makes him EVEN MORE CULPABLE than Riddle. Perhaps this puts Snape
in the beyond redemption column for JKR.
Further, what if whatever Snape does next is somehow contributory to
Riddle's redemption - whether he intends it to be or not. Even if
Snape hates Lord Voldemort (regardless of whatever side he's on) he
could have reason to feel love or admiration for Tom Riddle.
Perhaps the presence of these feelings could be a redemptive factor
for Riddle regarding of Snape's actions. If Snape were to betray
LV, he would be acting the Judas role in redeeming him. And if he
were to die supporting Riddle it would be analogous to Lily's and/or
Dumbledore's sacrifices.
More and more, I believe JKR sees Snape himself as immaterial to the
story. Yes his actions will be a major trigger of the final outcome
but his ability to direct or (pun intended)spin this tale have come
to an end. If there were a poll on this, I'd vote for him to be
dead by or before chapter 13 of book 7.
Regardless, I believe JKR will destroy our (mistaken) belief in the
depth of the Snape character. Her hero MUST be proven right at all
costs. Harry is her hero and he has fixed his opinion of Snape
after careful thought - and at a very late stage in this story. He
cannot be wrong and remain Our Hero. Therefore, whatever his
actions and/or motives, Snape MUST be proven to be evil through and
through. All of his actions throughout the series can be taken at
face value. There is no more depth to this character.
In this case, the only thing left regarding Snape would be to reveal
the full extent of his evil machinations over the years. And quite
frankly, I don't believe JKR will bother with this. The full extent
of ESE!Snape's actions can be left to our collective
imaginations.
ladyljd
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