LOVE Saves the Day in the end WAS Re Dumbledore's Pensieve
M.Clifford
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Wed Aug 10 03:51:08 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 137113
> Saraquel
>
> Who is going to take this opportunity to plead and grovel for
> someone to please, please post something on how *Love saves the day*
> for Harry. I've tried twice to get this discussion going and no-one
> has posted a reply. For my last attempt see message 136797 No AKs
> just the ministry room of love. I think this is such an important
> thing to discuss. I've seen stuff on how Harry needs to toughen-
> up/learn occlumency/learn legilimency/learn avada kedavra but I
> haven't read (admittedly, it might have been posted but missed by
> me, if so please point me to it.) anything on how we are
> interpreting DD's insistence that *Love is all you need.* I really
> think that this is the way JKR is going to resolve the plot, and I
> for one would really like to discuss it. Anyone else think like me
>
please?
Valky:
I'd love to Saraquel. The only problem is we aren't given a whole lot
of canon about how it will be. Here are a few of my own ideas.
The Room of Love:
As we know, this room is Always Locked. The secret to getting into it
hasn't been revealed but DD has revealed to Harry that this room is
full of the Power that he needs to Vanquish Voldemort.
I think at some stage Harry will become curious about that room and
the Trio will sneak back into the MOM to get into that room.
The three of them will spend a while figuring out how to get in, and
then by chance Hermione and Ron will discover that *they* can go in,
*together* because the Love between them is the key to the door.
Outlandish, I know, and to what end, I dont really know.
I guess Ron and Hermione will come out changed and enlightened by what
the found in the room, or that the Love from in the room will transfer
itself to inside of them making them in one way or another invaluable
to Harry in his fight against Voldie.
The first Confrontation between Harry and Voldemort:
In the TLC/Mugglenet interview, JKR said that she felt she had
established Ginny and Harry as *equals*. This choice of words
interests me immensely because in the Prophecy people being *equals*
seems to be a key point.
I have often wondered if Voldemort was trying to secure himself a
living *equal* for a Horcrux as the final step in his plans for
immortality. I think this because of the fact that he *acts directly
through* Nagini, something he doesn't do with other Horcruxes. And he
seems to be unusually fond of her and has an extraordinary amount of
control over her even for a Parseltongue. Somehow Harry shares this
connection with them, which leads me to believe that Voldie *always*
intended to be connected to someone this way, I don't think its an
accidental side effect of a failed AK.
So on to the point of all this. If we place the two "couples" side by
side. Voldie and Nagini are Voldies idea of *equals* IOW they are
*both him* and he is in control so they are *equal on his terms* and
Harry and Ginny are Harry's (JKR's) idea of *equals* They are both
strong and brave, have both been through huge emotional steps to get
to the point where they are, both have survived Voldemort trying to
kill them so they are somewhat in an equal level of experience facing
Voldies powerful will. And there is where we might be able to see the
way Love will be n important thing in this confrontation. The bond
between Ginny and Harry, is love, while the bond between Voldie and
Nagini, is something else. BOth Harry and Voldie possess Voldies
powers, which I would say include his extrordinary abilities of
Legilimency and possession. Harry has already stumbled unintentionally
into the mind of Nagini and briefly into Snapes during Occlumency.
I would not be surprised if DD and Snape, knowing that Harry was
endowed with Voldies powers, were as deliberately cautious about what
Harry would see as well as what they thought Voldie might see.
I like to add these three things together because it delivers an
extrordinary possibility in the climactic scenes that looks a little
like this:
Like in the end of OOtP Voldie tries his most powerful weapon on
Harry, the one that shook DD to his boots, he takes ossession of
someone that Harry loves. Ginny. With Ginny's voice he tells Harry to
kill him now, and he attacks Harry with Ginny's body.
Then Harry does something so instinctive that he doesn't even know
he's achieved it until its done, He enters Nagini. Now if Voldemort is
to kill Harry, he must kill Nagini (A Horcrux! The only thing that he
loves, Himself!).
This leaves the battle in a kind of Stalemate, I know. But some major
possibilites are opened that echo the Man with Two Faces Chapter of
PS/SS, like the way Harry embraces Quirrel while the touch of Love in
Harry's skin burns the Quirrel!Mort. This could again happen, this
time with Harrys love for Ginny being the thing that burns Voldie,
possibly driving him to destroy his own Horcrux Nagini in the process
and forcing him out of Ginny finally alone and mortal.
The Final confrontation:
I posted something about this one earlier, it was based mostly on the
premise of Harry being an accidental Horcrux, and Voldemorts last
thing between himself and Death. I still like tht one, and a scenario
without Harry as a Horcrux really hasn't come to mind yet. But I'll
work on it.
Valky
Hoping this will give Saraquel something to chew over about Love in
the Final battle.
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