Missing Horcrux = Ravenclaw's

[esmith222002]

No: HPFGUIDX 137129

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jjjjjuliep" <jjjjjulie at a...> 
wrote:

> The first time I read Dumbledore's comment
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> "Naturally I do, but as I have already proven to you, I make 
mistakes like the next man. In fact, being — forgive me — rather 
cleverer than most men, my mistakes tend to be correspondingly 
huger." 
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> I took it to be a foreshadowing of his misjudgment of Snape.  By 
>the end of the book, and rereading the second time, I believe that 
>even more firmly.  I believe when push came to shove, Snape chose to 
>save his own live, by killing Dumbledore.  I believe that from a 
>dramatic or storytelling point of view, this action, coupled with 
>this statement, is pretty much the pinacle of JKR's achievement in 
>this book.  The betrayal of Dumbledore by Snape is one of the 
>riskiest things JKR could have done, and it gives the book, and now 
>the series, an emotional richness it would otherwise not be able to 
>attain.  
> 
I like being able to argue my point with someone who has the opposite 
view, so I will give you my take on DD/Snape. To me the most 
important comment wrt to this is in OOTP. DD to Voldemort (and I'm 
paraphrasing here!) 'It is your inability to realise that there are 
things worse than death that is your greatest flaw'.
To me this suggests that DD would be perfectly willing to sacrifice 
himself to help Harry. But the question is why?
Voldemort would never understand DD's sacrifice and therefore would 
regard Snape as 'honoured above all others'. Snape is therefore in a 
very powerful position to help Harry.
IMO, the richness that you speak of can still be there. I think 
Snape's prejudice against Harry's father is going to nearly prevent 
him doing what DD has planned for him to do. But there is definitely 
some link between Snape & Lily (I suspect that this is the important 
bit of info on Lily for book 7). It will be Harry's eyes (his 
mother's eyes) that remind Snape of why he switched sides (how else 
can Harry's eyes be so important).



> > > 3.  From the POV of JKR:  she's all but said, in her interview
> > > last month, that Harry needs to look for the locket, the cup,
> > > the snake, and the missing item.
> > >
> > What she said was - 
> > 'Harry now knows — well he believes he knows – what he's facing. 
> > Dumbledore's guesses are never very far wide of the mark. I don't
> > want to give too much away here, but Dumbledore says, `There are
> > four out there, you've got to get rid of four, and then you go for
> > Voldemort.' So that's where he is, and that's what he's got to 
do.'
> 
> Right.  None of her quote contradicts the contention I made.  She 
> reaffirmed that we can trust Dumbledore on the 4 items he names.
> 

Isn't interpretation a great thing!! To me, there seems so much 
ambiguity in JKR's statement, that it guarantees that we don't know 
the whole story wrt Horcruxes. I also don't think the Horcruxes will 
take a lot of time to deal with.
The locket - At 12 Grimmauld Place
The cup - I think this will be the real challenge
The wand? - Either Neville has it or Voldemort has it.
Nagini (or possibly Harry) - Find Voldemort & you find the snake

Brothergib