LOVE Saves the Day in the end WAS Re Dumbledore's Pensieve
saraquel_omphale
saraquel_omphale at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 10 15:00:30 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 137149
Valky wrote in
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/137113
>Hope this will give Saraquel something to chew over about Love in
>the Final battle.
Saraquel:
Well Valky, mischief managed. This scenario is so different from
anything that I have ever thought about but then you're pretty
good at doing that!
>Valky wrote
>Hermione and Ron will discover that *they* can go in,
>*together* because the Love between them is the key to the door.
>Outlandish, I know, and to what end, I don't really know.
Saraquel:
Interesting thought, but I think it would be more likely to be Harry
and Ginny (see my comment in my previous post about Harry splitting
with Ginny) Although, if the room is full of Last Judgement Love, I
don't know that this would further the plot, and I do think that if
Harry goes into the room, it will only be once, at the end with
Voldemort.
But yes, what is the key to the door? I really like the idea that it
opens because of something in you, rather than having a physical key
of some sort. Maybe it's about the courage to want to see the
Truth. Like the Room of Requirement, the door opens on the basis of
need. (In my previous post, 137139, I speculated that the Room of
Love contained The Mirror of Truth)
Valky wrote:
>I have often wondered if Voldemort was trying to secure himself a
>living *equal* for a Horcrux as the final step in his plans for
>immortality.
Saraquel:
I remember your Lily-was-an-intended-Horcrux post, which really
caught my attention. Although I can't really work out why Voldemort
would choose Lily (she was the child of muggles after all) it was an
interesting way of looking at the possibilities for the choice Lily
was offered, and I have tucked it in the back of my mind.
Valky wrote:
>BOth Harry and Voldie possess Voldies
>powers, which I would say include his extraordinary abilities of
>Legilimency and possession.
Saraquel:
It had occurred to me about the Legilimancy, but not about the
ability to possess, being one of the powers Harry has inherited.
Valky wrote: under the title First confrontation between Harry &
Voldemort
>Like in the end of OOtP Voldie tries his most powerful weapon on
>Harry, the one that shook DD to his boots, he takes possession of
>someone that Harry loves. Ginny. With Ginny's voice he tells Harry
to
>kill him now, and he attacks Harry with Ginny's body.
>Then Harry does something so instinctive that he doesn't even know
>he's achieved it until its done, He enters Nagini. Now if Voldemort
is
>to kill Harry, he must kill Nagini (A Horcrux! The only thing that
he
>loves, Himself!).
>This leaves the battle in a kind of Stalemate, I know. But some
major
>possibilities are opened that echo the Man with Two Faces Chapter of
>PS/SS, like the way Harry embraces Quirrel while the touch of Love
in
>Harry's skin burns the Quirrel!Mort. This could again happen, this
>time with Harrys love for Ginny being the thing that burns Voldie,
>possibly driving him to destroy his own Horcrux Nagini in the
process
>and forcing him out of Ginny finally alone and mortal.
Saraquel:
Wow, that sort of took my breath away. There are things I like a lot
about it and other things I'm not so sure of. I'm not keen on the
Ginny bit. I suppose it's just that this has happened to Ginny
before, being possessed by Voldemort. But then, this is Harry's
worst fear from the funeral materialising, which would be a huge
test for him. On the other hand I find the whole idea of Harry being
able to possess Nagini, really intriguing and that Harry's love is
the thing that kills Nagini.
I think I may have read the post you refer to about the final
confrontation between Harry and Voldemort, but I'm afraid I can't
remember the details. But taking the concept of possession into
Voldemort and Harry's final meeting may well fit in with the
Prophecy. There is a sort of intertwinedness (nice word don't know
that it exists though) in the `neither can live if the other
survives' part of the prophecy. I wonder if we could make it work
with a possession theory.
Saraquel
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