LOVE Saves the Day in the end WAS Re Dumbledore's Pensieve

saraquel_omphale saraquel_omphale at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 10 15:00:30 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137149

Valky wrote in 
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/137113 
>Hope this will give Saraquel something to chew over about Love in 
>the Final battle.

Saraquel:
Well Valky, mischief managed.  This scenario is so different from 
anything that I have ever thought about – but then you're pretty 
good at doing that! 

>Valky wrote
>Hermione and Ron will discover that *they* can go in,
>*together* because the Love between them is the key to the door.
>Outlandish, I know, and to what end, I don't really know.

Saraquel:
Interesting thought, but I think it would be more likely to be Harry 
and Ginny (see my comment in my previous post about Harry splitting 
with Ginny) Although, if the room is full of Last Judgement Love, I 
don't know that this would further the plot, and I do think that if 
Harry goes into the room, it will only be once, at the end with 
Voldemort.

But yes, what is the key to the door? I really like the idea that it 
opens because of something in you, rather than having a physical key 
of some sort. Maybe it's about the courage to want to see the 
Truth.  Like the Room of Requirement, the door opens on the basis of 
need. (In my previous post, 137139, I speculated that the Room of 
Love contained The Mirror of Truth)

Valky wrote:
>I have often wondered if Voldemort was trying to secure himself a
>living *equal* for a Horcrux as the final step in his plans for
>immortality.

Saraquel:
I remember your Lily-was-an-intended-Horcrux post, which really 
caught my attention.  Although I can't really work out why Voldemort 
would choose Lily (she was the child of muggles after all) it was an 
interesting way of looking at the possibilities for the choice Lily 
was offered, and I have tucked it in the back of my mind.

Valky wrote:
>BOth Harry and Voldie possess Voldies
>powers, which I would say include his extraordinary abilities of
>Legilimency and possession.

Saraquel:
It had occurred to me about the Legilimancy, but not about the 
ability to possess, being one of the powers Harry has inherited.

Valky wrote: under the title First confrontation between Harry & 
Voldemort
>Like in the end of OOtP Voldie tries his most powerful weapon on
>Harry, the one that shook DD to his boots, he takes possession of
>someone that Harry loves. Ginny. With Ginny's voice he tells Harry 
to
>kill him now, and he attacks Harry with Ginny's body.
>Then Harry does something so instinctive that he doesn't even know
>he's achieved it until its done, He enters Nagini. Now if Voldemort 
is
>to kill Harry, he must kill Nagini (A Horcrux! The only thing that 
he
>loves, Himself!).
>This leaves the battle in a kind of Stalemate, I know. But some 
major
>possibilities are opened that echo the Man with Two Faces Chapter of
>PS/SS, like the way Harry embraces Quirrel while the touch of Love 
in
>Harry's skin burns the Quirrel!Mort. This could again happen, this
>time with Harrys love for Ginny being the thing that burns Voldie,
>possibly driving him to destroy his own Horcrux Nagini in the 
process
>and forcing him out of Ginny finally alone and mortal.

Saraquel:
Wow, that sort of took my breath away. There are things I like a lot 
about it and other things I'm not so sure of. I'm not keen on the 
Ginny bit.  I suppose it's just that this has happened to Ginny 
before, being possessed by Voldemort. But then, this is Harry's 
worst fear from the funeral materialising, which would be a huge 
test for him. On the other hand I find the whole idea of Harry being 
able to possess Nagini, really intriguing and that Harry's love is 
the thing that kills Nagini.

I think I may have read the post you refer to about the final 
confrontation between Harry and Voldemort, but I'm afraid I can't 
remember the details. But taking the concept of possession into 
Voldemort and Harry's final meeting may well fit in with the 
Prophecy. There is a sort of intertwinedness (nice word – don't know 
that it exists though) in the `neither can live if the other 
survives' part of the prophecy. I wonder if we could make it work 
with a possession theory.

Saraquel
















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