LOVE saves the day in the end + Dumbledore's Pensieve
cubfanbudwoman
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Wed Aug 10 16:07:52 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 137151
Marianne S:
> > I think the pensieve could be quite helpful!
> > 4) What EXACTLY happened at Godric's Hollow on that fatefull
> > day... from Snape's perspective if he was present.
Saraquel:
> Harry doesn't actually have to go to anyone else to find out what
> happened at GH. He was there, he will have a memory of it. As JKR
> has pointed out (See the Mugglenet/LC interview) the magic of the
> pensieve is that it re-creates the *complete* scene for you, so it
> doen't matter that Harry was just a baby and didn't understand what
> was happening.
SSSusan:
I am DESPERATE to see such a scene, Saraquel. Before JKR stated what
she stated**, I know we had arguments here that: 1) Harry wouldn't
have seen anything because he was lying in his cot/crib; and 2) any
memory he did have would be quite incomplete or just sensory
information because he was so young. Herself's comments about
pensieve memories being complete/objective** I hope means that you're
right: that if there is no DD or Snape memory to look at, Harry will
still be able to extract his own and see it.
[**For those who may not have read, here are snippets of JKR's
comments from the Melissa/Emerson interview:
"It's reality. ...So, what you remember is accurate in the Pensieve.
...Yeah. Otherwise it really would just be like a diary, wouldn't it?
Confined to what you remember. But the Pensieve recreates a moment
for you, so you could go into your own memory and relive things that
you didn't notice the time."]
If we end this series without an explanation of how events unfolded
that night at GH, preferably with an actual "visual," it will
probably be my biggest disappointment of the series (unless Harry
bites it in the end, as that would be even bigger.
Speaking of the series' end...
Saraquel said:
> ... plead and grovel for someone to please, please post something
> on how *Love saves the day* for Harry. <snip> I've seen stuff on
> how Harry needs to toughen-up/learn occlumency/learn
> legilimency/learn avada kedavra but I haven't read anything on
> how we are interpreting DD's insistence that *Love is all you
> need.* I really think that this is the way JKR is going to resolve
> the plot, and I for one would really like to discuss it.
SSSusan:
Well, I know many will find what I'm going to say to be Simplistic
and Sappy and all that kind of Stuff, but so be it. (Hmmmm, all
those "S" words must go with my "SSSusan.")
Anyhoo... I do think love will be the key, but I don't think it's
*necessarily* anything Harry has to study or bone up on or "develop"
as he would Occlumency or the other things you've mentioned, Saraquel.
What Harry does have, imo, is the capacity for love -- perhaps not at
this time greater than many others' capacity -- but it is quite
PRESENT in him, I'd argue. In addition, he has the "saving people
thing" -- the tendency to rush off, without thinking of his own
safety or potential harm (and sometimes not about the potential harm
for others either), to take care of/rescue others. It's the
combination of these things -- love/compassion/concern for others +
the willingness to sacrifice which will be the (somehow!) fatal
combination for Voldy.
Here's how I have always seen it playing out. In the end, Harry will
come, probably solo, to the understanding that he must sacrifice
himself. He will be willing to do so because of his love for (many)
others -- **not** because of romantic love for Ginny, but because of
deep, compassionate, altruistic agape love & concern for others.
But here's the TWIST I'm hoping for. Harry will come to believe
this, and he will come to DECIDE that he will sacrifice himself, thus
ensuring (somehow! -- leaving this up to JKR's magical creativity)
Voldemort's demise. However, in the process of offering himself up,
Harry will (somehow!) discover, quite surprisingly, that he does not
NEED to die. The belief & the willingness to have died will turn out
to have been enough.
Yeah, yeah, I know. Some of you are gagging at your computer screens
right now. But Saraquel asked... and this is my response.
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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