Last Judgement Love - Was (Re: No AKs )

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 137160

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" <Aisbelmon at h...> 
wrote:

Valky:
> IMO this theory is really strong Saraquel, because I agree that we
> should look outside the box of Lovey dovey Mushy sweet things about
> Love when looking for this final Love that will defeat Voldemort.
> Throughout the series we have seen Love in forms of compassion,
> Friendship, sacrifice, loyalty.. all the sentimental stuff, AND we
> have also seen the Terrifying Power of Dumbledore *decidely not
> mushy*, we've seen Snape and Draco be very very good in some ways 
and
> Harry and Hermione be very very bad in others, we've felt sorry for
> Voldemort and we've been very p**sed off at Harry's Father, we've
> hardly been lead to think that the books are supposed to end with a
> mushy sentimental feeling conquering the bad guy, IMHO. 


Geoff:
We've had this sort of discussion more than once in the past. I fail 
to see how you can write off certainly sacrifice and loyalty as 
sentimental.

A long way back, in message 110643, I wrote this:

"I think this takes us back to the old question of what do we mean by
love? The word is a catch-all. "I love you", "I love strawberries and
cream", "Don't you just love the way he scores points over the other
guy?"

C.S.Lewis attempted to tackle this in his book "The Four Loves" when
he went back to the four Greek words: eros, philos, agape and storge
and shows that each reveals a different facet of the idea.

This is why I objected a few days ago when someone wrote something
like "That's why I don't want Harry to win by using (ugh!) love." I
pointed out that real love is the sort of love demonstrated by Christ
on the Cross - not love being crooned about but real, strong, deep
love unyielding in its aims to care for others and to put their needs
in front. "Greater love has no man...." etc."

But I would agree that judgment based on agape may well play a part 
in Voldemort's feelings and his abhorrence of love - which is a 
marvellous contradiction in terms!.