GH in Harry's memory(was: LOVE saves the day in the end + Dumbledore's Pensieve)

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Aug 11 13:12:55 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137260

SSSusan previously:
> > I am DESPERATE to see such a scene, Saraquel.  Before JKR stated 
> > what she stated**, I know we had arguments here that:  1) Harry 
> > wouldn't have seen anything because he was lying in his cot/crib; 
> > and 2) any memory he did have would be quite incomplete or just 
> > sensory information because he was so young.

CathyD replied:
> Unfortunately, though, JKR also said: "Harry didn't see his parents 
> die. He was in his cot at the time (he was just over a year old) 
> and, as I say in 'Philosopher's Stone', all he saw was a flash of 
> green light." (In response to a question about why Harry didn't see 
> the Thestrals at the end of GOF.)  I think he's going to have to 
> attain that memory from the other person who *was* at Goderic's 
> Hollow that night.  Snape possibly?


SSSusan again:
Except that you snipped out the part of my post which explained why 
this *is* still possible.  When JKR was discussing, in her recent 
interview with Melissa & Emerson, how memories viewed in a pensieve 
work, she said this:

"It's reality. ...But the Pensieve recreates a moment for you, so you 
could go into your own memory and relive things ***that you didn't 
notice the time.***"  [Emphasis added.]

Here's a little more from that segment of the interview:

JKR (continuing on from where I stopped quoting, above):  "It's 
somewhere in your head, which I'm sure it is, in all of our brains. 
I'm sure if you could access it, things that you don't know you 
remember are all in there somewhere."

And then this, which is really key:
"MA: So there are things in there that you haven't noticed 
personally, but you can go and see yourself?
JKR: Yes, and that's the magic of the Pensieve, that's what brings it 
alive."


SSSusan again:
So I think she's saying there that you *didn't* have to observe or 
notice things the first time to be ABLE to observe them via the 
pensieve.  IOW, if you were there, you *have* the memory -- the 
COMPLETE memory -- you just need to pull it out and put it into the 
pensieve in order to get the "reality" of it, the fullness of it.  

While it's in Harry's head, it may be just sensory stuff -- green 
light, screams, and such -- but pulling it out and placing it in a 
pensieve would allow him to get into the WHOLE thing and explore what 
he didn't observe as a tot.

At least, that's how I interpreted what she said.  

I'll still grant you that we might well discover what happened at GH 
from another person who was there -- I've long thought that was a 
distinct possibility.  But I think that JKR's explanation to Melissa 
& Emerson gives us the news that that wouldn't be necessary in order 
for us to get the description, that Harry's memory would suffice.

Siriusly Snapey Susan








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