No Snape is not evil!!!!!(was:It's over, Snape is evil)

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No: HPFGUIDX 137411

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "eggplant107" 
<eggplant107 at h...> wrote:> 
> I can think of 5 objections to the Snape killed Dumbledore 
reluctantly
> on Dumbledore's orders and at heart Snape is really a pussycat 
theory.
> I believe any one of them is strong enough to torpedo the entire 
idea. 
> 

Mario:
I am sorry, but none of your arguments "hold water" (is that the 
right English expression?):

> 1) Snape already had Voldemort's trust, we are told in chapter 2 
that
> he is the Dark Lord's closest adviser and he already knows of the 
Top
> Secret plan to kill Dumbledore, there was no need for the Order of 
the
> Phoenix to lose their most powerful wizard for Voldemort to trust 
him.

Mario:
He did not already have LV's trust. The all pretend to be his closest 
advisor. DD said that no one gets close to LV. Snape only pretended 
to know of LV's plan. He never actually said anything, not to 
Narcissa, not to Draco. We only ever saw him ask Draco what was the 
plan. We never witnessed a conversation where Snape said anything 
about killing DD.

> 
> 2) It doesn't matter if Snape knows of Voldemort's plans now because
> he can't tell anyone, nobody in the OotP would believe him, in fact
> they'd kill him on sight before he could even open his mouth.
> 

Mario:
He does not need to know of LV's plan. The plan is clear, take the 
world over. Harry only needs to know what and where the horcruxes 
are. Snape NOW has LV's confidence, and will find out what/where they 
are, and he will let Harry know either by pretending to be R.A.B. or 
by showing Harry a DD memory in the pensieve that will show DD asking 
Snape to kill him.... for that specific purpose of getting ultra-
close to LV (agin to find out where the Horcruxes are...). 

> 3) Snape seemed to be enjoying himself enormously when he murdered
> Dumbledore and nobody is that good an actor.

Mario:
I do not have the book with me, but I do not remember any "enjoyment" 
from Snape (even if English is not my first language, I am sure it is 
not a misunderstanding of a word on my part).
> 
> 4) I do not believe Dumbledore would ask anyone to become a 
murderer.

Mario:
He did not ask anyone for murder. He is not dead. He changed into a 
bumblebee when his body was hidden behind the fire "apparently 
birning", and he flew away right before the tomb appeared. AND he 
sent a secret message using his phoenix Patronus at the same time.... 
We just have to figure out to who...


> 
> 5) If Dumbledore did have some sort of wacky plan he would have to 
be
> brain dead dumb not to tell Harry about it; he must know that after
> Harry saw him be murdered by Snape he would never rest until Snape 
was
> dead, or Harry was.  
> 
> It's time for all you Snape lovers to realize that it's over, the 
fat
> lady has sung and Snape is much more than just unpleasant, he's 
evil.
> 

Mario:
He did not tell Harry, because Harry does his best thinking and 
fighting when he is on his own... He only needs hints (which will 
come from Snape) and his instincts lead him. Throughout the first 6 
books, he always did the most important stuff by himself (not that he 
did not get help, but it was more accessory than anything else... and 
he performed more when he actually was "on his own", even if someone 
was besides him).



> Eggplant