Paradox of Time Travel in PoA - Before & After/Prophecy

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 13 09:49:10 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137499

Finwitch:

Something I consider interesting in both Time-Travel and Prophecy, is 
that they Turn the cause/consequence upsidedown in sorts... 

Because these are the rare cases where future dictates the past. It 
is only significant events - events even centaurs would consider 
significant - that have this ability.

The Prophecy MUST be vague, because only that vagueness allows free 
choice to the ones who hear it. Both Dumbledore and Snape, upon 
hearing the prophecy, did make choices based on who they are. When 
Voldemort heard it from Snape, his choices (Dumbledore explained why 
he chose what he did) set the prophecy in motion...

The events of the future are the REASON of a prophecy AND the content 
of it. The exact circumstance in which the prophecy comes out is the 
consequence (because only that way these people make these choices 
that the prophecy happens...)

Guess that's why most people have problem with time TURNER and 
prophecy - because it turns over the ordinary timely order of cause 
and consequence... I know - it sounds crazy (which is why Trelawney 
appears so, despite of her predictions being fairly accurate. Just 
because none of those she predicted would DIE are not dead yet, 
doesn't mean they won't. Like Harry: I highly doubt that Harry would 
choose to watch his friends die, himself being immortal... and that 
is what Trelawney sees. Because unless you take great sacrifices by 
tainting your soul, you WILL die, simply because it's the nature of 
mortal humans... - or manage to make Philosopher's stone and keep 
drinking Elixir of Life all eternity... but even Nicolas didn't live 
for all eternity). It's Harry's determination and purity which causes 
Trelawney to predict his death - so in a way, as tragic as Trelawney 
thinks it - it's a GOOD prediction.

Finwitch






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