Harrys new Patronus

Pat 5682574 at sbcglobal.net
Sat Aug 13 15:51:28 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137528

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "doddiemoemoe" 
<doddiemoemoe at y...> wrote:
> 
> I believe you are asking the wrong question... You must ask 
> yourslelf why Fawkes is not there... (apparently he's been absent 
> for quite some times in light of DD's blackened hand...no healing 
> tears...no fawkes swallowing said curse..)
> 
> Why did not Harry nor DD summon fawkes to them???

Pat:  I wondered that, too.  Both Fawkes and Hedwig seemed to be off 
on holiday for book 6. I'm thinking that the healing power of a 
phoenix is limited. 

> doddimoemoe:  I absolutely do not buy "so Harry could see DD      
> die"...that makes no sense

Pat:  I agree, but it would make sense that it was for the Death 
Eater's to see.  And I'm wondering, if Snape faked the Avada Kedavra 
while non-verbally casting another spell, would that fulfill what he 
promised in his Unbreakable Vow?  He didn't promise to kill 
Dumbledore, he promised "to carry out the deed". I'm wondering if 
this is a loophole.

> doddimoemoe:  If dd froze/imobilized Harry..then he could have 
done so with Draco as well.

Pat:  Well, no, he no longer had his wand.

> doddimoemoe:(who thinks that if there is anyone who can do        
> it....Harry will be able to change his patronus at will--fitting 
>  do you not think?)

Pat: I believe Jo said that one's Patronus and Animagus are the 
same, and that you can't choose your Animagus animal, so therefore, 
you couldn't choose your Patrounus form either.

I'm looking for the quote that made me think that. I'll keep 
looking, but so far, closest I've found is this in the FAQ section 
of JKR's website:

"Members of the Order use their Patronuses to communicate with each 
other... each Patronus is unique and distinctive, so that there is 
never any doubt which Order member has sent it; nobody else can 
conjure another person's Patronus, so there is no danger of false 
messages being passed between Order members;... 

and this quote:
"JK Rowling's World Book Day Chat, March 4, 2004:
kelly_holland: When you turn into an Animagus, can you choose what 
animal you become? Or does this get "assigned" to you?
JK Rowling replies -> No, you can't choose. You become the animal 
that suits you best. Imagine the humiliation when you finally 
transform after years of study and find that you most closely 
resemble a warthog."

Well, maybe I'm wrong, because all you would have to do is learn to 
cast your Patronus, and then you'd know what animal you'd transform 
into. Hmm

While I was poking around looking for that, I found this:

"JK Rowling's World Book Day Chat, March 4, 2004: 
Ernie: I wonder if you can let us know what form will Professor 
Snape's Boggart and Patronus take? I am very curious.
JK Rowling replies -> Well, I'm not going to tell you Ernie, but 
that's because it would give so much away..."

I can see that his Boggart would give things away, but what could 
his Patronus be that would give things away? He's described as bat-
like, so I'd guess his is a bat. 


Pat







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