Dumbledore and Snape again/ Argument in the Forest again.

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 13 22:28:55 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137550

Brothergib:
<SNIP>

> This is a quote from OOTP, p738
> 'Yet there was a flaw in this wonderful plan of mine' said 
Dumbledore.
> 
> Wonderful plan!! Simply to prepare Harry for Voldemort! It just 
> doesn't quite add up.> <SNIP>


Alla:

I am not quite sure why it does not quite fit for you, because for 
me it fits perfectly, since Dumbledore knows that Harry is the one 
with the power to defeat Voldemort. So, it makes perfect sense to em 
that Dumbledore's plan would be to ensure Harry's safety ( and 
yes,after HBP I AM convinced that this was the only  reason 
Dumbledore placed him with Dursleys, thanks G-d, JKR did not 
mention " it is better for him top grow up away from WW" crap :-))

The other part would be to train Harry to help him beat Voldemort 
and survive ( and again I AM convinced that DD does not think of 
Harry as a weapon).

Lupinlore:
> > Well, that seems to be an all-or-nothing interpretation.  I see 
no 
> > reason why Snape would have to be completely evil and/or that 
> > Dumbledore would have to be a complete fool.  We as yet have no 
> idea 
> > of many of Snape's motivations.  Perhaps he was loyal to 
Dumbledore 
> > until something happened that overrode that loyalty.  
Possibilities 
> > for such a scenario? 
<SNIP>


Brothergib:
> These are all plausible I suppose - they simply are far less 
logical 
> than DD being right about Snape, and Snape being now the perfect 
spy!


Alla:

Erm... Lupinlore's scenarios may  be less logical for you, to each 
their own of course, but to me they make much MORE sense and much 
more consistent with internal logic  of Potterverse ( just my 
opinion of course) than Dumbledore  asking Snape in advance to kill 
him, while increasing Hary's hatred of Snape many times more and 
expecting Harry to trust Snape to help him save the day when moment 
comes)

The main reason of course would be as others stated that it is 
Harry's story and he is supposed  to play the main role at the end, 
not Superspy saving the day.

Don't get me wrong, I CAN see scenarios of Snape being good , but 
making a horrible choice to kill DD, because Snape thinks he can 
help a good guys this way, or saving Draco, etc( Severely Siguine's 
essay being the best example), BUT in all those scenarious I don't 
see Dumbledore asking Snape to kill him ( at least not in advance).

Whatever was in Snape head at the Tower, I don't see JKR let him get 
away with murder, I just don't.

As always, I am prepared to eat a nice crow. :-)


Brothergib: 
> It seems that all the Snape-Evil posters are forgetting DD's 
words - 
> There are things far worse than death!!
> 


Alla:

Erm... I try not to do generalisations, so I will speak for myself 
only :-)

YES, there are things  worse than Death, but could you or anybody 
else point to  me to ANY moment in Potterverse, which indicates that 
there are things worse than MURDER?


Just me of course,

Alla.






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