Why Lily didn't have to die.

colebiancardi muellem at bc.edu
Mon Aug 15 14:12:32 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137683

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, bjebenstreit at a... wrote:
 > Ethanol wrote:
> 
> And here is another point: Rowling at least thinks it is possible 
to fall  in 
> love with somebody 
> you've insulted and hurt and have this someone return these 
feelings. Who?  
> Ron and
> Hermione!
>  
> Compare page 187 of PS (UK edition):
>  
> "It's no wonder no one can stand her," he said to Harry as they 
pushed  their 
> way into the 
> crowded corridor. "She's a nightmare, honestly."
> Someone knocked into Harry as they hurried past them. It was 
Hermione.  Harry 
> caught a 
> glance of her face - and was startled to see she was in tears. 
> "I think  she heard you."
> "So?" said Ron, but he looked a bit uncomfortable. "She must've 
noticed  
> she's got 
> no friends."
> 
 
however, that was before they knew each other.  They were still 1st 
years and didn't have a chance to *bond*.  They began a friendship 
within 2 months after starting there - after the Troll scene.  In 
comparison, by the time the pensive scene rolled around, Snape, Lily, 
James, etc all had been at Hogwarts for 5 years.  If one's perception 
hasn't changed for the better by that time, I don't think it would 
have.

The problem is we don't really know anything about the relationship 
between Snape & Lily.  Just because he doesn't say anything bad about 
Lily to Harry doesn't mean anything.  Snape doesn't attack Neville's 
parents, either.  Does that mean he has a *crush* on Neville's 
parents?  No.  The reason why Snape goes all out for James is because 
old hatreds die hard - James is Snape's bete noire, even dead.  And 
Snape *owed* James a life debt - which had to really piss off Snape, 
as now he has transferred that life debt to Harry.  Lily, according 
to Lupin, was *kind* to everyone - I assume she was the protector of 
small puppy dogs, geeks, the weak and oddballs all over - and Snape 
fell into that catagory when she saw him being ganged up on.  Now, if 
it was just James & Snape - would she have stepped in?  

Also, the back & forth between James & Lily is more in tune with Ron 
& Hermoine.  The exchange between Snape & Lily is more in tune with 
Draco & Hermoine.  There is a big difference between the two 
dynamics.  She also thought Snape was *as bad as* James.  James loved 
her - enough to change his ways and stop being the bullying toe-rag 
that he was.  Snape joined the DE's instead.  

colebiancardi






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