[HPforGrownups] The Importance of the Houses (was:Re: Slughorn a dead end topic?)
Laura Lynn Walsh
lwalsh at acsalaska.net
Wed Aug 17 23:44:07 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 137930
>Betsy Hp:
>
>For Hufflepuff we get Cedric. Yes, he's brave and intelligent. But
>he's also got an incredibly strong sense of fair-play. He's doesn't
>like that he beat Harry at Quidditch because of a technicality.
>He's the only Champion *not* cheating in the Tri-Wizard tournament.
>(It's interesting that in return for Harry telling him that the
>first challenge is dragons, he only gives Harry *hints* about what
>to do with his egg. I think he'd have felt out and out telling
>Harry about the mermaid song would be cheating.)
Actually, I believe Cedric cheated as well, though,
perhaps he could not have avoided it.
p. 281 GOF (American version):
"The champions are not permitted to ask for or accept help
of any kind from their teachers to complete the tasks in the
tournament."
p. 635 GOF (American version):
[Harry]:"You helped me with the egg - we're square."
"I had help on the egg in the first place," said Cedric.
p. 676 GOF (American version):
[Fake!Moody]: I knew you hadn't worked out the egg's clue,
so I had to give you another hint -"
"You didn't," Harry said hoarsely. "Cedric gave me the clue -"
"Who told Cedric to open it underwater? I did."
Cedric received the information and acted upon it. And
he passed it on to Harry.
But one of the things that Hermione or Harry says about
receiving help, I believe to be in error. I can't find the
quote right now, but they seem to believe that it was
against the rules for the champions to get help from friends
and classmates. But, unless there are rules that we weren't
made known of, it doesn't say that they can't get help from
friends or even house elves - just teachers.
That doesn't mean I think Harry didn't cheat - the dragon
task was an obvious cheat. Hagrid showed it to him; Hagrid
is his teacher. And Fake!Moody gave him so many hints
about the broom that he might as well have told him outright.
It just means I don't think Cedric was guiltless either.
Laura Walsh lwalsh at acsalaska.net
Laura Walsh lwalsh at acsalaska.net
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